临终遗言 - 德国Death Metal乐队Anasarca专访

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德国作为重金属音乐非常重要的国家之一，在这个国家不仅仅有着世界闻名的音乐节，还有很多世界知名的乐队，今天采访到的就是来自德国的一支老牌乐队Anasarca，组建于1995年的Anasarca乐队最初由Mike和Heiner组建，一开始Mike在一支名为Vomiting Corpses（因1995发行的第一张专辑“Coma: The Spheres of Innocence”而闻名）乐队演奏，但是由于一些分歧Mike和Heiner决定离开乐队，不久之后便组建了Anasarca乐队并且在一周之后便录制了他们的第一张Demo作品“Condemned Truth”，为了让乐队有一个完整的阵容他们花费了大量的时间寻找成员，直到Frank和Chris的加入才让乐队拥有了完整的阵容并且开始了现场表演，1998年乐队在Repulse Records厂牌发行了他们的第一张正式专辑，这张专辑发行之后便收到了广泛的好评和关注，也迅速让Anasarca乐队成为了德国当时最引人关注的乐队之一，这张专辑融合残酷的美式Death Metal的感觉也融合了犹豫，优美的旋律，给人一种独特的美感，随即乐队2000 - 2004年发行了三张作品，均收到了很好的反馈，2004年放行了第三张正式专辑“Dying”之后乐队宣布解散，直到2013年乐队以全新的阵容重新组建，随后几年之内发行的作品都是高质量的1作品，2026年乐队在Selfmadegod Records厂牌发行了他们的第五张正式专辑“Achlys”，在新专辑发行之际杂志也与乐队创始人的Mike取得联系进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 M: 代表Mike）

As one of the countries where heavy metal music is very important, Germany not only has world-renowned music festivals, but also many world-renowned bands. Today's interview is with Anasarca, a veteran band from Germany. Anasarca was originally formed by Mike and Heiner in 1995. Initially, Mike played in a band called Voting Corpores (known for their first album "Coma: The Spheres of Innocence" released in 1995), but due to some disagreements, Mike and Heiner decided to leave the band. Soon after, they formed Anasarca and recorded their first demo work "Condemed Truth" a week later. In order to have a complete lineup for the band, they spent a lot of time searching for members until Frank and Chris The addition of Anasarca allowed the band to have a complete lineup and start live performances. In 1998, the band released their first official album on Repulse Records, which received widespread praise and attention. It quickly made Anasarca one of the most attention grabbing bands in Germany at the time. The album blended the cruel American Death Metal feeling with hesitation and beautiful melodies, giving people a unique beauty. The band then released three works from 2000 to 2004, all of which received good feedback. After the release of their third official album "Dying" in 2004, the band announced their disbandment. It was not until 2013 that the band reorganized with a brand new lineup. In the following years, the works released by the band were all of high quality. In 2026, the band was released on Selymadegod Records The label has released their fifth official album "Achlys", and on the occasion of the release of the new album, the magazine also contacted the band's founder Mike for an exclusive interview!

(V: represents author M: represents Mike)

采访对象：Mike（Anasarca乐队创始人）

采访时间：2026.04.28

V: 你好Mike，很高兴见到你，非常感谢你参加这次采访。我想这是你们乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访。首先向所有中国粉丝和朋友问好。Anasarca成立于1995年，是一个历史悠久的乐队。你最初是怎么组建这个乐队的？

Hello Mike, nice to meet you and thank you very much for participating in this interview. I think this is the first time your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine. First of all, let me say hello to all Chinese fans and friends. Anasarca was founded in 1995 and is a long-standing band. How did you form this band in the first place?

M: 首先，感谢你对Anasarca的关注。是的，这实际上是我们第一次接受中文杂志的采访。早在2000年代，我们就曾询问过中国旅游的问题，但在我们意识到我们必须自己承担大部分费用，这在财务上不可行后，这项调查就泡汤了。Anasarca的成立——嗯，我以前在一个叫Vomiting Corpses的乐队里，我们玩得很开心，享受着今天仍然是Anasarca特色的精彩音乐。如果我们当时没有闹翻，它肯定会是一个成功的乐队，尽管它的名字如此。Heiner（鼓手）和我决定离开Vomiting Corpse，因为我们已经不再相处了并且对需要多大的投入有不同的看法。我们辞职后立即成立Anasarca了。一周后我们录制了第一首五首的演示歌曲"Condemned Truth"。为了找到合适的人来组建一个完整的乐队，花了一些时间，但Frank和Chris随后加入了我们，我们得以进行现场演奏。

First of all, thank you for your interest in Anasarca. Yes, this is actually our first interview with a Chinese magazine. We had an inquiry about touring China back in the 2000s, but that fell through after we realized we would have had to cover a lot of the costs ourselves, which wasn't financially feasible. The founding of Anasarca—well, I was previously in a band called Vomiting Corpses, and we had a really great time with awesome music that still characterizes Anasarca today. If we hadn't fallen out back then, it certainly would have been a successful band, despite the name. Heiner (drums) and I decided to leave Vomiting Corpse because we weren't getting along anymore and had different opinions about how much commitment was needed. We quit and immediately founded Anasarca. A week later, we recorded our first 5-song demo, "Condemned Truth." It took some time to find the right people for a complete band, but Frank and Chris then joined us and we were able to play LIVE.

V: 你现在是乐队中唯一的第一代成员，剩下的成员都被替换了。为什么第一代成员离开乐队？新成员是如何加入乐队的？你对他们的工作满意吗？新成员给乐队带来了哪些新的创作灵感？

You are now the only first generation member of the band, and the remaining members have all been replaced. Why did the first generation member leave the band? How did the new members join the band and are you satisfied with their work? What new creative inspirations did the new member bring to the band?

M: 由于内部投票和多数人的决定，第一批离开乐队的成员不得不离开...然后到了2001年，在我们发行了第二张专辑"MORIBUND"之后，乐队成员内部出现了进一步的困难，这就是我不想继续下去的时刻。我受够了一时什么都不想做。几年后我们当时的鼓手Herb和我在一起，因为我们渴望再次创作音乐，因为我已经完成了新专辑的所有歌曲，我们在2004年以二重唱的形式录制了"DYING"。当然我们想现场表演，所以我们请来了Joschi Wang作为吉他手，允许我们作为三人组现场演奏。你在问题5中问到，为什么2004年之后到2012年会有一段时间。我在那儿回答。

The first members to leave the band had to leave because of internal votes and majority decisions... Then came the year 2001, and after we released our second album MORIBUND, there were further internal difficulties with a band member, and that was the point at which I didn't want to continue. I was fed up and didn't want to do anything for a while. Our drummer at the time, Herb, and I got together some years later because we were simply itching to make music again, and since I already had all the songs for a new album finished, we recorded DYING as a duo in 2004. Of course, we wanted to present it live, so we brought in Joschi Wang as a guitarist, allowing us to play live as a trio. You asked in question 5 why there was a break after 2004 until 2012. I'll answer that there.

V: 你是一个有丰富创作经验的音乐人，创作了许多经典专辑。能介绍一下你的创作过程吗？相信你的创作经验会给更多的年轻音乐人带来灵感！

You are a musician with rich creative experience and have created many classic albums. Can you introduce your creative process? I believe your creative experience will bring inspiration to more young musicians!

M: 我可能写了所有专辑中95%的歌曲，这只是因为我不断有机会录制它们。这些年来，这使我的创作过程变得相当容易。由于我的工作，我从小就主要在电脑上工作，我的桌子旁一直有一把吉他，即使现在也是如此。我一直有某种录音程序和一个虚拟扩音器，每当我脑子里有一段情节或其他想法时，我就把它录下来。我想我的硬盘里还有足够的素材，可以再用歌曲填满三张专辑。然后我使用鼓机（或我们从当时专辑的鼓录音中获得的鼓声文件）一起编辑歌曲，并利用这些基础知识，我与各自的音乐家合作来改进歌曲。捕捉这些想法对我来说真的很重要，因为我有很多想法，如果没有地方保存它们，我会忘记其他想法。

I probably wrote 95% of the songs on all the albums, and that was only possible because I constantly had opportunities to record them. This made my creative process quite easy over the years. Due to my job, I had to work primarily on the computer from an early age, and I've always had a guitar next to my desk—even now. I've always had some kind of recording program and a virtual amp, and whenever I had a riff or another idea in my head, I recorded it. I think I still have enough material on my hard drives to fill another three albums with songs.I then used drum machines (or drum sound files that we had from the drum recordings for the albums back then) to edit the songs together, and with these basics, I then worked with the respective musicians to refine the songs. It's really important to me to capture these ideas because I have so many that I would forget the others if I didn't have somewhere to save them.

V: 你们乐队的每张专辑在录音效果方面都有显著进步，这与时代的发展密切相关。所有录音设备都在改进，尤其是你早期的专辑，充满了颗粒感。当然，你最新专辑的录音效果也非常出色。你早期专辑是在哪个录音室录制的？新专辑是在哪个录音室录制的？那些制作人做的所有专辑都是为你做的吗？

Every album of your band has made significant progress in terms of recording effects, which is closely related to the development of the times. All recording equipment is improving, especially your early albums which were full of graininess. Of course, the recording effects of your latest album are also very excellent. Which studio did you record your early albums in? Which studio was the new album recorded in? Are all the albums made by those producers for you?

M: 我们在德国奥尔登堡的Cord Hanken家里录音室“Art Temple Productions”录制了首张专辑"GODMACHINE"。他是我邻居的朋友，我们就是这样认识的。Cord本人也是一位Thrash Metal音乐家，同时也是受过专业训练的音响工程师，近年来曾在歌剧院工作。既然我们对他的职业道德和成就感到非常满意，我们也和他一起录制了"MORIBUND"、"DYING"和"SURVIVAL MODE"专辑。我依然喜欢听那些专辑，因为声音总是独特且精彩。我们其实也想和他一起制作"ACHLYS"，但因为他现在的工作，录音过程可能需要几周甚至几个月。我们考虑了各种选择，知道Daniel Meinzer也有家庭录音室。他是很棒的乐队BOKOR的贝斯手兼主唱（你绝对得去听听他们;他们的新专辑正在录制中，肯定会很棒！鼓手Wilko目前也在OBSCENITY演奏，但他也会弹吉他，并在自己的录音室录制了Bokor的一些作品。所以我们决定试一试，首先是为了看看如何和他合作，以及我们作为乐队（自SURVIVAL MODE以来“新”成员）在录音室里的相处如何，我们在2024年7月录制了三首歌的宣传曲"Goddess of the Somber Shade"。这些宣传录音也旨在帮助我们争取新专辑的合约。我们对宣传片已经非常满意，粉丝们也是如此。因此我们决定要和Daniel一起在他的“Wretched Noise Studio”录制整张专辑。随后Daniel升级了设备，你可以听到结果，可能是Anasar克有史以来最棒的专辑音质上也是如此！

We recorded our debut album, GODMACHINE, with Cord Hanken at his home studio, "Art Temple Productions," in Oldenburg, Germany. He was a friend of my neighbor, and that's how we met. Cord is a thrash metal musician himself and a trained sound engineer who has worked at opera houses in recent years. Since we were—and still are—very happy with his work ethic and what he achieved with everything, we also recorded the MORIBUND, DYING, and SURVIVAL MODE albums with him. I still enjoy listening to all of those albums because the sound was always unique and awesome. We actually wanted to produce ACHLYS with him as well, but because of his current job, the recording would have taken weeks or even months. We considered our options and knew that Daniel Meinzer also has a home studio. He's the bassist and singer of the awesome band BOKOR (you absolutely have to check them out; their new album is currently being recorded and is going to be amazing! Drummer Wilko is also currently playing with OBSCENITY.), but he can also play guitar and has recorded some of Bokor's material at his studio. So we thought we'd give it a try and, firstly to see how we could work with him and how we as a band (with the "new" members since SURVIVAL MODE) would get along in the studio, we recorded the 3-song promo "Goddess of the Somber Shade" in July 2024. These promo recordings were also intended to help us secure a deal for the new album. We were already extremely happy with the promo, and so were the fans. Therefore, we decided that we wanted to record the entire album with Daniel at his "Wretched Noise Studio." Daniel then upgraded his equipment and you can hear the result - probably the best Anasarc album ever - also in terms of sound!

V: 你们的乐队于2004年宣布解散，直到2013年才重新组建。是什么促使你们解散乐队？是什么促使你们再次重组乐队？

Your band announced their disbandment in 2004 and did not reorganize until 2013. What caused you to disband the band? What caused you to reorganize the band again?

M: 我从未正式解散Anasarca;更像是休息。我暂时离开了这个圈子，生了两个可爱的孩子，终于完成了我的商科学位。2012年，当孩子们分别是11岁和9岁时，又到了重新创作音乐的时候。我们其实只是想聚在一起，玩点即兴演奏，喝啤酒，聊聊无关紧要的话。于是我问了感兴趣的人，我们就开始了。但不久后Anasarca又开始排练的消息传出后，第一批演出邀请开始涌入，于是“我们再做一次音乐吧”变成了“好，那我们正式开始吧”。

I never officially disbanded Anasarca; it was more of a break. I took some time out of the scene, had two wonderful children, and finally finished my business degree. When the kids were 11 and 9 in 2012, it was time to make music again. We really just wanted to get together, jam a little, drink beer, and talk nonsense. So I asked the people who were interested, and off we went. But shortly after word got out that Anasarca was rehearsing again, the first gig requests started coming in, and so "let's just make music again" turned into "okay, let's get started properly."

V: 死亡、临终、绝症是你的音乐主题。你为什么选择这个音乐主题？你想通过这个音乐主题表达什么？你还创建了歌词部分。这些歌词是谁创作的？灵感来源是什么？

Death, Dying, Terminal Illness is your music theme. Why did you choose this music theme? What do you want to express through this music theme? You also created the lyrics section. Who created these lyrics and what inspired them?

M: 这并不完全准确。"GODMACHINE"是一张我写过各种主题歌词的专辑。这不是一张概念专辑。每张专辑都应该是概念专辑的想法始于2001年的专辑"MORIBUND"。那时我的目标是为那些没人关注的人发声。那些因被判死刑而失去生命的人，但他们依然是有感情的人。大多数人对自己的行为感到后悔。也没有人在场倾听他们的想法和感受。所以我决定给这些人一个声音，即使只是通过Death Metal。所以我研究了合适的歌词，主要是诗歌和个人反思，改编并通过我们的歌曲赋予这些人发声的机会。"DYING"也是如此，因为这里我用了那些大多处于绝症末期的人的歌词，他们在最后一次反思自己的人生，写下最后的想法。在这里，我也探讨了这些理念，进行了调整，并为临终者发声。生存模式则是个有些不同的概念。我想展示人们在为生存而战时能做到什么。人们会做出难以想象的事，只要能救命。无论是"蓝约翰"中阿隆·拉尔斯顿的故事，他被困在峡谷中，为了挣脱自己并求生，砍断了自己的手臂。或者"571"，讲述安第斯山脉坠机事件，幸存者为了避免死亡而吃掉了朋友...... ACHLYS这个概念对我个人来说非常重要，也很有情感，因为这里我用了失去亲人的文本和诗歌。2017年至2019年间，我亲自失去了五位家人、心爱的宠物和朋友，这让我意识到，最可怕的恐怖不是来自血腥故事，而是来自失去亲人。这张专辑献给两位金属迷朋友Paul和Farmi，他们英年早逝。

That's not entirely accurate. GODMACHINE was an album on which I wrote lyrics about various topics. It wasn't a concept album. The idea that every album should be a concept album started in 2001 with the album MORIBUND. My goal back then was to give a voice to people whom no one else pays attention to. People who had forfeited their lives through a death sentence, but who were still human beings with feelings. People who, for the most part, regretted their actions. And no one was there to listen to their thoughts and feelings. So I decided to give these people a voice—even if only through death metal. So I researched suitable lyrics, mostly poems and personal reflections, adapted them, and gave these people a voice through our songs. It was similar with DYING, because here I used lyrics from people who were mostly in the final stages of terminal illnesses, who were reflecting on their lives one last time and writing down their final thoughts. Here, too, I explored these ideas, adapted them, and gave a voice to the dying. SURVIVAL MODE was a somewhat different concept. I wanted to show what people are capable of when they are fighting for survival. People do unimaginable things if it means they can save their lives. Be it the story of Aron Ralston in "Blue John," who, trapped in a canyon, cut off his arm to free himself and survive. Or "571," dealing with the crashed flight in the Andes, where the survivors ate their friends to avoid dying... ACHLYS is a concept that is very important to me personally and is very emotional, because here I used texts and poems from people who have lost loved ones.

Between 2017 and 2019, I personally lost five family members, beloved pets, and friends, which made me realize that the worst horror doesn't come from gore stories, but rather from losing loved ones. This album is dedicated to two metalhead friends, Paul and Farmi, who died far too young.

V: 你们乐队的标志是我见过最独特的。是谁为你设计了这个标志？你的专辑封面设计也很独特。这些专辑封面是谁为你设计的？

Your band's logo is the most unique logo I have ever seen. Who designed this logo for you? Your album artworks are also designed uniquely. Who designed these album artworks for you?

M: 我亲自设计和绘制了标志。那时我做过几个乐队的标志（Crust、Vae Solis、Vomiting Corpses、Anasarca、Left Hand Path......）。除了"DYING"之外，我们的专辑封面都是Robert Sindermann负责的，他从GODMACHINE时期就一直和我们合作，作品一直都很出色。"Dying"是个例外——那封面是我临时拼凑出来的，但这也是我现在唯一觉得不太好的封面。;)

I designed and drew the logo myself. Back then, I did several band logos (Crust, Vae Solis, Vomiting Corpses, Anasarca, Left Hand Path...). Our album covers, except for DYING, were done by Robert Sindermann, who's been with us since GODMACHINE and always did excellent work. DYING was the exception—I cobbled that cover together, but it's also the only cover I don't find all that great these days. ;)

V: 你的乐队和Selfmadegod Records、Sevared Records、Blackend、Mighty Music、Repulse Records。你是如何联系这些厂牌合作发行专辑的？你对这些品牌的工作满意吗？

Your band and Selfmadegod Records，Sevared Records，Blackend，Mighty Music，Repulse Records How did you get in touch with these labels to collaborate on releasing albums? Are you satisfied with the work of these brands?

M: 每个厂牌都尽力而为，而每个厂牌—当然除了Selfmadegod，因为我们刚起步都有自己的缺点。但我不想把任何脏事都曝光。Repulse在听完我们1996年的demo"GODMACHINE"后，给了我们当时发行首张专辑的机会。我们从未参与过Blackened;他们买下了Godmachine的版权，但我们从未收到过他们的消息，没有一封邮件，当然也没有任何钱或其他任何东西。还有Metal Age Productions，他们发行了我们的专辑"SURVIVAL MODE"黑胶版，以及来自中国的AWAKENING RECORDS，他们以精彩的版本重新发行了我们的首张专辑"GODMACHINE 2025"再次感谢李萌的贡献。

Each label did what it could, and each label—except Selfmadegod, of course, since we were just starting out there—had its downsides. But I don't want to air any dirty laundry. Repulse gave us, after they listened to our 1996 demo "GODMACHINE", the chance to release our debut back then. We never had anything to do with Blackened; they bought the rights to Godmachine, but we never heard from them, not a single email or anything—and of course, never any money or anything else. There was also Metal Age Productions, who released our album SURVIVAL MODE on LP, and AWAKENING RECORDS from China, who re-released our debut GODMACHINE 2025 in fantastic versions — thanks again to Li Meng for that.

V: 首先，恭喜你们乐队今年刚刚发行了最新专辑。你们是一支深受90年代Old School Death Metal风格影响的乐队，拥有复古节奏、riff，既残酷又凶猛，旋律也非常令人难忘。在当今时代，像你们这样的乐队已经很罕见了。你对自己的作品有什么看法？新专辑和旧专辑之间有什么变化吗？

First of all, congratulations to your band for just releasing their latest album this year. You are a band deeply influenced by the old school death metal style of the 1990s, with a retro rhythm, riff， Both cruel and fierce, and your melodies are very memorable. In today's era, bands like yours are rare. What is your opinion on your own works? Is there any change between the new album and the old album?

M: 我真心相信Anasarca一直以来都与大多数其他乐队不同。因为通常是我写歌，所以我的风格自然而然地形成了。我仍然更喜欢听我成长过程中听的专辑：早期的"Edge of Sanity"，早期的Death，早期的Obituary，早期的Cannibal Corpse，早期的Morbid Angel，早期的Grave/Entombed/Dismember......所有这些都影响了我的创作，正是我今天想听的那种音乐。我受不了Technical Brutal Death Metal或Metalcore之类的。我喜欢真实的歌曲，而不是那些炫耀极其技艺高超的技术花招（我自己也太差了），但我经常不喜欢他们的歌曲创作，因为我几乎听不清任何结构。我喜欢那些令人印象深刻的吉他riff，我觉得认识和喜欢我们的人总能认出歌曲和它们属于哪张专辑，这在如今许多新乐队中几乎不可能做到。

I truly believe that Anasarca has always sounded different from most other bands out there. Since I usually wrote the songs, my own style naturally developed. I still prefer listening to the albums I grew up with: early Edge of Sanity, early Death, early Obituary, early Cannibal Corpse, early Morbid Angel, early Grave/Entombed/Dismember... All of that influenced my songwriting and is exactly the kind of music I want to listen to today. I can't stand technical brutal death metal or metalcore, etc. I love real songs, not technical shenanigans that show people are incredibly skilled musicians (I'm far too bad at that myself), but whose songwriting I often don't like because I can barely hear any structure. I love killer riffs that stick in your head, and I think that people who know and like us can always identify the songs and the album they belong to—which is hardly possible with many new bands these days.

V: 作为一支优秀的乐队，你们参加了许多音乐节。有哪些音乐节给你留下了深刻的印象，2026年有哪些新的音乐节会邀请你参加？

As an excellent band, you have participated in many music festivals. Which music festivals have left a deep impression on you, and what new music festivals will invite you to participate in 2026?

M: 老实说，我们从来没有真正得到过太多的关注。我们在2001年参加了Obscene Extreme演出，那很酷。我们在这里有自己的小型节日“Paul's Coastrock Festival”，我们在那里演出，在一个已经不存在的小型捷克音乐节上演出，除此之外我们没有在其他任何地方演出过。有很多很酷的节日，比如PartySan、Hellfest、In Flammen，还有很多其他我们很想去的地方。我也认为我们总是能给人们带来很多快乐，我们只需要把这个信息传达给推广者，因为我们没有预订代理公司，也不想要一个。

To be honest, we've never really gotten much attention when it comes to festivals. We played at Obscene Extreme in 2001, which was cool. We have our own little festival here, "Paul's Coastrock Festival," where we played, and at a small Czech festival that doesn't exist anymore—but otherwise, we haven't played anywhere else, at any festival. There are lots of cool festivals like PartySan, Hellfest, In Flammen, and many others where we'd love to play. I also think we always bring a lot of joy to people live—we just need to get that message out to the promoters—because we don't have a booking agency and don't want one.

V: 你们是一支优秀的乐队，我是你们的忠实粉丝。我会一直关注和支持你的乐队。我希望通过这次采访吸引更多的中国粉丝关注和支持你的乐队。面试即将结束。最后还有什么想对中国的粉丝和朋友说的吗？

You are an excellent band, and I am your loyal fan. I will always pay attention to and support your band. I hope to attract more Chinese fans to pay attention to and support your band through this interview. The interview is coming to an end. Do you have anything you want to say to Chinese fans and friends at the end?

M: 首先，非常感谢你的采访，很荣幸。我很高兴我们在中国也有粉丝，也许有了ACHLYS，我们会收获更多。我们很乐意找时间为你演出。如果你能看看我去年开始的项目:MetalUnites（www.metalunites.com），我也会很高兴。这是关于支持知名度较低的乐队，展示乐队的酷炫现场视频，许多中国人可能很快就看不到现场直播，希望它最终能成为一个拥有自己的社交媒体平台（www.metalliverse.de）的全球金属网络。

祝你一切顺利，希望有空能见到你！

干杯！

Mike

First of all, thank you so much for the interview, it was a pleasure. I'm happy that we also have fans in China, and maybe with ACHLYS, we'll gain even more.

We'd love to play a show for you sometime. :)

I'd also be happy if you'd check out my project that I started last year: MetalUnites (www.metalunites.com).

It's about supporting lesser-known bands, featuring cool live videos from bands that many Chinese people probably won't see live anytime soon, and hopefully, it will eventually become a global metal network with its own social media platform (www.metalliverse.de).

All the best to you, and I hope to see you around sometime!

Cheers!

Mike