你们不应该被忘记 - 波兰Thrash Metal / Crossover乐队Sparagmos专访

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80年代极端金属处于一个刚刚发展的阶段，很多国家组建了大量优秀的乐队，摸索，创作属于自己的作品，所以在当时发行了大量优秀的作品，虽然录音方面并不尽人如意，但是这些乐队的才华并没有因为这些困难埋没了他们的才华，很多80年代的乐队作品一直被流传到现在，被更多的歌迷收藏，波兰这个国家在80年代也出现了大量的优秀乐队，但是由于传播的局限性，这些波兰的优秀乐队并没有得到其他国家歌迷的认识，也导致这些优秀乐队只能在波兰国内进行一些宣传，演出等一系列的活动，随着时间的推移，很多乐队因为生活的压力宣布解散乐队，虽然他们已经退出了舞台，但是随着时代的发展很多被埋没的乐队也被更多厂牌挖掘，重新开始宣传，重新发表作品，让他们在多年之后得到了全世界的关注和支持，今天要介绍的就是这样一支乐队，他们就是来自波兰的Sparagmos乐队，组建于1988年的Sparagmos乐队最初由一群热爱金属乐的年轻人组建，1990年乐队发行了第一张Demo作品“Mortal Organic Remains...”，1991年Sparagmos与波兰的Lastwar乐队合作发行了一张Spilt专辑，随后乐队1992 - 1999年期间发行了三张正式专辑，乐队的风格也有最初的Death Metal风格转变成为Thrash Metal/Crossover风格，2002年乐队宣布解散，在解散之际乐队也发行了一张精选专辑“Chronic”，这张专辑也是对乐队之前的发行的作品做了一个完美的总结，不久前波兰的著名厂牌Selfmadegod Records宣布与乐队合作重新发行他们1994年的专辑“Error”，为了这次的合作，Selfmadegod Records重新为乐队设计了艺术品，可以感受到Selfmadegod Records对于这次的合作非常重视，前不久杂志也是通过Selfmadegod Records厂牌的协助与乐队取得联系进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 S: Sparagmos乐队）

In the 1980s, extreme metal was still in its early stages of development. Many countries saw the formation of numerous outstanding bands that experimented and created their own unique works. As a result, a vast number of excellent albums were released during that time. Although the recording quality was far from ideal, these bands’ talent was not overshadowed by such challenges. Many of these 1980s albums continue to be passed down to this day and are collected by countless fans. Poland also saw the emergence of many outstanding bands in the 1980s. However, due to limitations in distribution, these exceptional Polish bands remained largely unknown to fans in other countries. Consequently, they were limited to promoting their music and performing within Poland. Over time, many bands disbanded due to financial pressures, and although they had left the stage, yet as the times have evolved, many of these overlooked bands have been rediscovered by record labels, which have relaunched their promotions and re-released their works, granting them global attention and support years later. Today, we’d like to introduce one such band: Sparagmos from Poland. Formed in 1988, Sparagmos was initially founded by a group of young metal enthusiasts. In 1990, the band released their first demo, “Mortal Organic Remains... In 1991, Sparagmos collaborated with the Polish band Lastwar to release a split album. Subsequently, between 1992 and 1999, the band released three full-length albums, evolving from their initial death metal style into a thrash metal/crossover sound. In 2002, the band announced their dissolution, and upon disbanding, they released a compilation album titled “Chronic,” which served as a perfect summary of their previous work. Recently, the renowned Polish label Selfmadegod Records announced a collaboration with the band to reissue their 1994 album “Error.” For this project, Selfmadegod Records created new artwork for the band, demonstrating the label’s commitment to this collaboration. Not long ago, with the assistance of Selfmadegod Records, the magazine also reached out to the band for an exclusive interview!

(V: Author | S: Sparagmos)

采访对象：Sparagmos（Sparagmos乐队）

采访时间：2026.06.12

V: 你好兄弟，很高兴认识你，非常感谢你接受这次采访。我想这是你们乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访。首先，我想向所有中国乐迷和朋友们问好。Sparagmos是一支历史悠久的乐队。你们当初是如何组建这支乐队的？

Hello brother, nice to meet you and thank you very much for participating in this interview. I think this is the first time your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine. First of all, I would like to say hello to all Chinese fans and friends. Sparagmos is a long established band with a long history. How did you first form this band?

S: 向中国所有金属乐迷问好。这是我们的首次专访，我对此感到非常兴奋。Sparagmos乐队成立于1988年的波兰华沙。那是个截然不同的时代。音乐是我们逃离极其严酷现实的出口。当时我们17岁，深受从西方传入波兰的音乐影响，但最重要的是，我们是一群挚友，并且渴望成为最棒的乐队。:)

Hello to all the metal fans in China. This is our first interview, and I’m very excited about it. Sparagmos was formed in 1988 in Warsaw, Poland. Those were different times. Music was an escape from a very grim reality. We were 17 years old, inspired by what came to Poland from the West, but above all, we were great friends and wanted to be the best. :)

V: 你们乐队保留了最初的阵容，但在1993年更换了鼓手。第一任鼓手为何离开乐队？新鼓手是如何加入乐队的，你们对他的表现满意吗？新鼓手为乐队带来了哪些新的创作灵感？

Your band maintains its original lineup, but changed drummers in 1993. Why did the first drummer leave the band? How did the new drummer join the band and are you satisfied with their job? What new creative inspirations did the new drummer bring to the band?

S: 是的，Tom Marecki离开了乐队，大概是因为他想成为一个正经人吧。:) 哈哈。1992年，他加入了Siva乐队。他是一位背景多元的地下音乐传奇人物，对我们的音乐产生了深远影响并带来了改变。后来hardcore和grindcore音乐的影响也逐渐显现。我们开始进行各种尝试，而当时刚刚在波兰出现的毒品，也成为了音乐场景的一部分。

Yes, Tom Marecki left the band, probably because he wanted to become a decent guy. :) Haha. In 1992, he joined Siva. He was an underground legend with different roots, which influenced and changed our music. Later, influences from hardcore and grindcore appeared. We started experimenting, and drugs—just beginning to appear in Poland at the time—also became part of the scene.

V: 你们是一支拥有丰富创作经验的乐队，创作了许多经典作品。能否向大家介绍一下你们的创作过程？我相信你们的创作经验会给更多年轻音乐人带来启发！

You are a group of musicians with rich creative experience, and you have created many classic works. Can you introduce your creative process to everyone? I believe your creative experience will bring inspiration to more young musicians!

S: 创作过程会随着经验和年龄的增长而变化。我们取得了许多成就，不仅限于Sparagmos。2001年，我组建了Antigama，而Sebastian Zusin则创立了Rootwater。此外，IN和Substance等另类项目也相继涌现。但有一点始终不变：一切的起点都必须有一个愿景，无论是歌词，还是吉他即兴段落。想象力能轻易在脑海中构建出一个完整的世界，那便是至关重要的时刻。随后，当这个构想传达到乐队成员手中时，某些极具个人色彩且意义深远的东西有时会丢失。但他人所增添的元素同样珍贵。关键在于既要小心守护最初的愿景，又要对那些仍能契合愿景的元素保持开放态度。乐队内部的沟通也至关重要沟通应当是建设性的、积极的，而非封闭的。

The creative process changes with experience and age. We’ve accomplished a lot, not just with Sparagmos. In 2001, I formed Antigama, and Sebastian Zusin founded Rootwater. Alternative projects such as IN and Substance also emerged. But one thing remains constant: in the beginning, there must be a vision—whether it’s a lyric or a guitar riff. Imagination can easily create a whole world in your head, and that is the crucial moment. Then, when the idea reaches the band, something very personal and meaningful can sometimes be lost. But what others add is also valuable. The key is to be careful not to lose the original vision, while staying open to what still fits it. Communication within the band is also crucial—it should be constructive and positive, not closed off.

V: 你们在1990年代的作品录音效果非常出色。这张专辑是在哪家录音室录制的？又是哪位制作人操刀制作的？

Your works had outstanding recording effects in the 1990s. Which studio did you record the album in, and which producer made the album for you?

S: 我们曾在许多录音室录制过作品。在波兰，我们学会了如何捕捉充满力量的音乐素材，而最重要的因素在于是否有能力将工作做好的人。专辑"ERROR"是在一流的Izabelin录音室录制的。除了录音师，我们还有一位制作人全程监督整个过程。不过，真正让这张专辑展现出全部力量的，是SMG 2026的再版。我们与Spencer Hogewood合作录制了下一张专辑"Conflict"，我们是在1996年与Voivod同台演出时结识他的。

We recorded in many studios. In Poland, we learned how to capture powerful material, and the most important factor was whether there was someone capable of doing it properly. The album ERROR was recorded at the excellent Izabelin Studio. In addition to the engineer, we had a producer overseeing the entire process. However, it was the SMG 2026 reissue that gave this album its full power. We recorded the next album, Conflict, with Spencer Hogewood, whom we met during shows with Voivod in 1996.

V: 你们乐队为何从早期的死亡金属转向鞭击金属/跨界金属？

Why did your band change their style from early death metal to Thrash Metal/Crossover?

S: 这一切都取决于乐队的阵容。当时世界上的种种变迁也产生了影响。许多新事物正在涌现，而我们渴望去探索它们。我们不仅仅是金属乐迷——我们思想开放，热衷于融合各种创意。狂热主义对艺术无益。:) 当时波兰有许多优秀的乐队，如Vader、Imperator、Pandemonium和Last War，而我们希望与众不同。加之首张专辑《Invitation from Host of Wrath》的成功，以及与西方乐队共同举办的众多精彩演出，让我们深感自己独具原创性。

It all depends on the band lineup. What was happening in the world also had an impact. A lot of new things were emerging, and we wanted to explore them. We were not just metal fans—we were open-minded and eager to mix ideas. Fanaticism is not conducive to art. :) At that time, Poland had many great bands such as Vader, Imperator, Pandemonium, and Last War, and we wanted to be different from everyone else. We were also coming off the success of our first album, Invitation from Host of Wrath, as well as many incredible concerts with Western bands, and we felt we were original.

V: 你们乐队的音乐主题是什么？为什么选择这个主题，又想通过它表达什么？你们还开设了歌词专栏。这些歌词是谁创作的，创作灵感来自哪里？

What is the music theme of your band about? Why did you choose this music theme, and what do you want to express through this music theme? You also created the lyrics section. Who created these lyrics and what inspired them?

S: 歌词一直是我们作品中至关重要的元素。起初，我们讲述的是具体的故事，为了契合金属音乐的风格，这些故事往往带有神秘主义色彩。然而后来，歌词开始探讨更现实的主题——我们的存在，以及我们面临的问题与挑战：对变化的恐惧，或是那种破坏一切、阻碍成长的仇恨。歌词主要由我创作，但Sive和Sebastian也贡献了几首。例如，在专辑"ERROR"中，有一首名为"ECO"的歌曲，它是专辑的最后一首曲目。这首歌非常不妥协。它旨在抗议人类对待自然的方式，并探讨由此可能招致的最终惩罚。

Lyrics have always been a crucial element of our work. Initially, we told specific stories, often inventing them with an occult theme to stay within the metal genre. Later, however, the lyrics began to address more real topics—our existence, as well as the problems and challenges we face: fear of change, or hatred that destroys and prevents growth. I wrote most of the lyrics, but Sive and Sebastian also contributed a few. For example, on the album ERROR, there is a song called “ECO,” the final track on the record. It is very uncompromising. It was written as a protest against humanity’s treatment of nature, and about the final punishment that may come as a consequence.

V: 你们曾与Dywizja Kot、Metal Mind Productions、ALF等厂牌合作发行专辑。你们是如何与这些厂牌建立联系并展开合作的？我知道Selfmadegod Records曾重新发行过你们的专辑。你们又是如何与Selfmadegod Records取得联系并展开合作的？你们对这些厂牌的工作满意吗？能否简要介绍一下Dywizja Kot、Metal Mind Productions、ALF等厂牌？

You have collaborated with labels such as Dywizja Kot, Metal Mind Productions, ALF to release albums. How did you establish contact with these labels for cooperation? I know that Selfmadegod Records has reissued your album. How did you get in touch with Selfmadegod Records to collaborate? Are you satisfied with the work of these brands? Can you briefly introduce Dywizja Kot, Metal Mind Productions, ALF and other brands?

S: 起初，只有ALF，那是一个没有合法唱片公司的时代，当时大家都在发行来自世界各地的盗版音乐。我们是第一支由ALF合法发行的乐队。后来，我们的唱片公司变成了Metal Mind Productions。这无疑是一个巨大的飞跃，因为该公司不仅出版"Metal Hammer"杂志，还主办大型音乐节。正因如此，我们曾在巨大的体育馆里为成千上万的乐迷献上许多令人难忘的演出，与Death、Morbid Angel、Sepultura、Paradise Lost、Master、Obituary、Napalm Death、Entombed等众多乐队同台。我们在波兰声名鹊起并受益于强有力的宣传推广。KOT Division发行了我们的最后一张专辑"Chronic"。这家公司由一位金属狂热分子经营，虽小却充满活力，堪称我们音乐生涯的缩影。如今SMG将我们所有作品以CD和黑胶形式发行，这对我们来说是件好事。这是一家在全球范围内运营的实力雄厚的波兰厂牌，那里的人们尊重音乐，也懂得如何推广音乐。SMG的负责人Karol曾是Antigama的发行人，所以我们早已相识。是他主动提议重新发行这些作品，我们对此感到非常高兴。

In the beginning, there was ALF, a time when there were no legal publishers—everyone was releasing pirated music from around the world. We were the first band to be legally released by ALF. Later, our publisher was Metal Mind Productions. That was a huge leap, because the company published Metal Hammer magazine and organized major festivals. Thanks to this, we played many incredible concerts in huge arenas for thousands of fans, alongside bands such as Death, Morbid Angel, Sepultura, Paradise Lost, Master, Obituary, Napalm Death, Entombed, and many others. We became well known in Poland and benefited from strong promotion. KOT Division released our last album, Chronic. That was the summary of our activity—a small but dynamic company run by a metal fanatic. Now SMG releases all our work on CD and vinyl, which is great for us. It is a strong Polish label operating globally, where people respect music and know how to sell it. Karol, the head of SMG, was also the publisher for Antigama, so we already knew each other. He suggested the reissue himself, and we were very happy about it.

V: 你们目前处于解散状态。乐队解散的原因是什么？

You are currently in a state of disbandment. What is the reason for disbanding the band?

S: 我们不再一起演出；大家各奔东西。经过这么多年，我们只是想尝试一些新事物。不过，随着专辑的再版发行，关于可能复出的疑问也随之而来。我们正在讨论和考虑这件事，Sparagmos 很有可能会重返舞台举办几场演出。我们肯定会准备一些新歌，并在网上发布。

We are not playing together anymore; everyone has gone their separate ways. After all these years, we simply felt like doing something new. However, with the reissue, many questions about a possible comeback have come up. We are talking and thinking about it, and there is a chance that Sparagmos will return to the stage for a few shows. We will definitely prepare some new songs and release them online.

V: 你们乐队的作品充满了复古的节奏和即兴段落，还有一些优美动人的旋律。虽然乐队已经解散多年，但你们的作品被越来越多的人传唱，这说明你们乐队的作品非常经典。你们对自己作品的看法是怎样的？

Your band is full of retro rhythms and riffs, as well as some beautiful and exciting melodies. Although you have been disbanded for many years, your works have been passed down by more people, which shows that your band's works are very classic. What is your opinion on your own works?

S: 这很难由我们来评判。每当人们重温我们的老歌，我们总是感到很高兴。对于90年代来说，那些作品既出色又富有创新精神。对我而言，那是一段青春岁月，也是探索人生真谛的时期。多年后回首我们的成就，我对我们所取得的成就深感钦佩。我们曾是朋友，并且一直维系着这份情谊直到今天。这是非常宝贵的一件事。或许我们没能把握住所有机遇，但这往往是常态，我们应当珍惜已取得的成就。我认为Sparagmos是一支极具原创性和独特性的乐队，对音乐有着与众不同的见解。

It’s hard for us to judge. We’re always happy when people return to our old songs. They were good and innovative ideas for the ’90s. For me, it was a time of youth and discovering what life was all about. Years later, looking back at our achievements, I’m impressed by how much we accomplished. We were friends, and we have managed to maintain that bond to this day. That is something very valuable. We may not have taken advantage of all the opportunities we were given, but that is often the case, and we have to appreciate what we did achieve. I believe Sparagmos was a very original and unique band, with a different approach to music.

V: 你参加过哪些现场演出？其中哪些给你留下了深刻印象？能否介绍一下当时现场演出的氛围？

What live performances have you participated in, and which ones left a deep impression on you? Can you introduce the atmosphere of the live performances at that time?

S: 我们以前经常排练，但也去看了很多场音乐会。我对第一次现场演出记忆犹新。那些演出通常在学校里举行，面对的是学生观众。那种场面非常震撼——音乐充斥整个校园，大家都疯狂了。后来，正如我提到的，我们曾与当时风靡全球的死亡金属乐坛领军人物同台演出。当我和Kobong在别什查迪山脉演出时，现场气氛简直难以置信——完全疯狂。随着时间推移，其他流派的大牌乐队也开始造访波兰。Tom Waits的演唱会令人难忘。就我个人而言，我更喜欢音效出色、氛围亲密的演出。

We used to play a lot, but I also attended many concerts. I have very fond memories of my first live performances. They often took place in schools, in front of students. It was powerful—music would take over the school, and people would go wild. Later, as I mentioned, we played shows alongside the leaders of the then-powerful global death metal scene. The atmosphere was incredible when Kobong and I played in the Bieszczady Mountains—absolutely insane. Over time, big bands from other genres also began visiting Poland. Tom Waits’ concert was unforgettable. Personally, I enjoy more intimate concerts with good sound.

V: 作为一支来自波兰的老牌乐队，你们能介绍一下20世纪80年代和90年代的波兰金属乐坛吗？你们亲历了那个时代的哪些岁月？我真的很想了解那个时期的波兰。

As an old band from Poland, can you introduce the Polish metal scene in the 1980s and 1990s? What era are you witnesses to? I really want to know about Poland in that era.

S: 那时的波兰确实是一个独一无二的时代。一切都在急速变化，许多人因此获得了演奏自己音乐的机会。也许正因如此，当时才涌现出如此多的出色乐队。地下音乐圈以及人际间完全依赖模拟方式的沟通，都需要投入巨大的热情和时间。至今我仍在发掘那个时代连自己都不曾记得的录音作品。Vader、Pandemonium、Pascal、Hate、Imperator和Hazael等乐队，不过是冰山一角。

It was a truly unique time in Poland. Everything was changing rapidly, and opportunities arose for so many people to play their music. Perhaps that is why so many incredible bands were active back then. The underground scene and the fully analogue nature of communication between people required a great deal of commitment and time. I am still discovering recordings from that era that I do not even remember. Bands such as Vader, Pandemonium, Pascal, Hate, Imperator, and Hazael are just the tip of the iceberg.

V: 作为一支优秀的乐队，尽管你们已经解散多年，但你们的作品并未被遗忘。我将一直关注并支持你们的乐队。我也希望通过这次采访，能让更多的中国乐迷了解、关注并支持你们的乐队。同时，我也希望能通过你们，进一步了解20世纪80年代和90年代波兰的故事。采访即将结束。最后，你有什么想对中国的乐迷和朋友们说的吗？

As an excellent band, although you have been disbanded for many years, your works have not been forgotten. I will always pay attention to and support your band. I also hope that through this interview, more Chinese fans can understand, pay attention to, and support your band. I also hope to learn more about the stories of Poland in the 1980s and 1990s through you. The interview is coming to an end. Do you have anything to say to your Chinese fans and friends at the end?

S: 这是一次非常棒的对话，能分享关于Sparagmos以及90年代波兰金属乐坛的故事，我感到非常兴奋。感谢大家的关注与支持。向中国所有重金属乐迷致以问候——让我们互相支持。通过艺术与热情，我们能够建立联系并分享经历，这真是太棒了。

It was a great conversation, and I was thrilled to share my stories about Sparagmos and the Polish metal scene of the ’90s. Thank you for your interest and support. Greetings to all heavy music fans in China—support each other. It’s amazing that through art and passion we can connect and share experiences.