病态艺术 - 德国Technical Death Metal乐队Profanity专访

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今天采访到的是来自德国的老牌Technical Death Metal乐队Profanity，成立于1993年的Profanity乐队由吉他 / 歌手Thomas Sartor组建，早期以Death Metal风格为主并且发行了一些作品深受好评，快速的重击节拍和复杂的窒息式即兴重复段构成了这张专辑中的大部分音乐，如果你喜欢Vader这类Old School Death Metal乐队，那么Profanity乐队早期的作品你一定会非常喜欢，随着时间迁移乐队在Old School Death Metal的基础上加入了更多的技术性，也从一支Death Metal乐队演变成了一支Technical Death Metal乐队，在改变风格之后2017年乐队发行了第三张正式专辑“The Art of Sickness”，这张专辑在保持着早期专辑的框架上加入了更多具有侵略性和复杂的演奏技术，形成了乐队的自己独特的声音，目前乐队正在创作新专辑，相信在未来的新专辑当中会给所有歌迷带来更多的惊喜，在前不久杂志乐队成员Dimit Basse取得联系进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 D: 代表Dimit Basse T: 代表Thomas）

Today's interview was with the veteran Technical Death Metal band Profania from Germany. Founded in 1993, Profania was formed by guitar/singer Thomas Sartor and initially focused on the Death Metal style, releasing some highly acclaimed works. The fast pounding beats and complex suffocating improvisational repetitions make up most of the music on this album. If you like Old School Death Metal bands like Vader, then you will definitely love the early works of Profania. Over time, the band has added more technical elements to Old School Death Metal and evolved from a Death Metal band to a Technical Death Metal band. After changing their style, the band released their third official album "The Art of Sickness" in 2017, This album incorporates more aggressive and complex playing techniques while maintaining the framework of earlier albums, forming the band's unique voice. Currently, the band is creating a new album, and we believe it will bring more surprises to all fans in future albums. Recently, magazine band member Dimit Basse contacted us for an exclusive interview!

(V: represents author D: represents Dimit Basse T: represents Thomas)

采访对象：Dimit Basse（Profanity乐队贝斯）

采访时间：2025.04.02

V: 你好Dimit Basse先生很高兴认识你，非常感谢你参加这次采访。我想这是你们乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访。首先向所有中国球迷和朋友问好。Profanity成立于1993年，是一支历史悠久的乐队。谁提议组建这个乐队？

Hello Mr. Dimit Basse, it's difficult to meet you and thank you very much for participating in this interview. I think this is the first time your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine. First of all, let me say hello to all Chinese fans and friends. Profanity was founded in 1993 and is a long-standing band with a long history. Who proposed the formation of this band?

D: 你好，谢谢你邀请我！我们很荣幸能第一次在中国杂志上刊登。与来自世界各地的金属头连接真是太棒了！1993年，Thomas Sartor在巴伐利亚州奥格斯堡（德国）创立了Profanity，他至今仍是乐队的核心与灵魂。在早期Profanity的声音更多地受到Old School Death Metal的影响，但随着时间的推移，它演变成了一种更具技术性和残酷性的形式。当我们发布“The Art of Sickness”时，我们已经完全建立了我们的声音：复杂具有侵略性和毫不妥协的technical death metal。

Hello, and thank you for having me! We’re truly honored to be featured in a Chinese magazine for the first time. It’s great to connect with metalheads from all over the world! Profanity was founded in 1993 in Augsburg, Bavaria (Germany) by Thomas Sartor, who remains the heart and soul of the band. In the early years, Profanity’s sound was more influenced by old school death metal, but over time, it evolved into a more technical and brutal form. By the time we released The Art of Sickness, we had fully established our sound: complex, aggressive, and uncompromising technical death metal.

V: 现在只有Thomas Sartor是乐队剩下的第一代成员，其他成员都被替换了。你2024年才加入乐队。新成员是怎么加入乐队的？

Now only Thomas Sartor is the first generation member left in the band, and all the other members have been replaced. You only joined the band in 2024. How did the new members join the band?

D: 是的，Thomas是最后一位原创成员，但每一位加入Profanity的音乐家都有所帮助，发扬乐队的精神。Lucas于2017年加入，担任贝斯手和歌手。2022年乐队决定他应该集中精力，这是一个伟大的举动，因为它让他在舞台上释放了所有的能量。Tobias于2024年加入担任鼓手。Lucas认识他，立刻说：“他就是我们要找的那个人，需要”Tobias天赋异禀，在多个乐队中演奏，带来了modern technical death风格到Profanity。我于2024年加入。起初我只是帮忙一些演出，但到了秋天，我正式成为新来的贝斯手。这个阵容非常强大，我们每个人都带来了不同的经历和影响，让我们的音乐更加丰富。顺便说一句，我不能忘记Armin——即使他不再是作为乐队的活跃成员，他仍然是Profanity中的一员。你不能谈论Profanity的时候忘记提到Armin。

Yes, Thomas is the last original member, but every musician who has joined Profanity has helped carry the band’s spirit forward. Lucas joined in 2017 as both bassist and vocalist. In 2022, the band decided that he should focus solely on vocals, which was a great move because it allowed him to unleash all his energy on stage. Tobias joined in 2024 as a drummer. Lucas knew him and immediately said, “He’s the guy we need.” Tobias is highly talented and plays in multiple bands, bringing a modern technical death metal style to Profanity. I joined in 2024. Initially, I was just helping out for some gigs, but in autumn, I officially became the new bassist. This lineup is incredibly strong, with each of us bringing different experiences and influences, making our music even richer. By the way, I can't forget Armin—even though he is no longer an active member of the band, he is still a real part of Profanity. You can't talk about Profanity without mentioning Armin.

V: 你们每个成员都是一位在创造极端金属方面经验丰富的音乐家。你能介绍一下你的创作经验吗？我相信你的创作经验会激励许多年轻的音乐家，你的每个成员都生活在不同的国家。你们是怎么解决修行问题的，还是你们现在都住在德国？

Each of you members is an experienced musician in creating extreme metal. Can you introduce your creative experience? I believe your creative experience will inspire many young musicians. Each of your members lives in different countries. How do you solve the problem of practice, or are you all living in Germany now?

D: 是的，我们都有很强的极端金属背景：Lucas活跃于Distaste和Endonomos等多个乐队，对

极端的嗓音。他也是一个多乐器演奏家——他无所不能！Tobias在Spire of Lazarus，和Abstractyss中演奏，带来了现代、技术和快速的鼓声方法。多年来我一直与Nephren-Ka和Soul of Sheol,合作，在残酷中塑造我的风格technical death metal。我演奏音乐和金属已有几十年了——我从1997年开始，我的第一场现场表演是在同一年。我喜欢现场演出，我相信这是提高的秘诀，作为一名音乐家：演奏，演奏，再演奏！如果你想开始演奏音乐，多练习，玩

其他人，但最重要的是，现场表演——即兴演奏、演出、排练……不要害怕探索金属之外的不同风格！Thomas完全致力于Profanity，是我们作品背后的策划者。由于我们生活在不同的国家，我们经常远程工作。我们交换曲目练习，单独来看当我们见面参加演出或工作室会议时，我们已经做好了充分的准备。这是极限金属的新现实——适应性和效率是关键！

Yes, we all have strong backgrounds in extreme metal: Lucas is active in multiple bands like Distaste and Endonomos and has a deep understanding of extreme vocals. He is also a multi-instrumentalist—he can do everything! Tobias plays in Spire of Lazarus, Abstractyss, and brings a modern, technical, and fast drumming approach. I have played for years with Nephren-Ka and Soul of Sheol, shaping my style in brutal and technical death metal. I have been playing music and metal for decades—I started in 1997, and my first live show was in the same year. I love playing live, and I believe that’s the secret to improving as a musician: play, play, and play! If you want to start playing music, practice a lot and play with others, but most importantly, play live—jam sessions, gigs, rehearsals… And don’t be afraid to explore different styles beyond just metal! Thomas is fully dedicated to Profanity and is the mastermind behind our compositions. Since we live in different countries, we work a lot remotely. We exchange tracks, practice individually, and when we meet for gigs or studio sessions, we are already fully prepared. This is the new reality of extreme metal—adaptability and efficiency are key!

V: 你们乐队的每一张专辑都显示出录音质量的显著提高，这与时代的进步密切相关。随着时代的变化，录音技术变得更加全面。你在哪个录音室录制了专辑，哪个制作人为你制作了专辑？

Every album of your band has shown significant improvement in recording quality, which is closely related to the progress of the times. With the changes of the times, recording technology has become more comprehensive. Which studio did you record your albums in and which producer made the albums for you?

D: 我们很幸运Lucas能加入乐队，因为他不仅是我们的歌手，也是我们的声音工程师和制作人。他经营着自己的录音室“Deep Deep Pressure Studios”，所以我们最近的专辑中有他的个人风格。Profanity之声的转折点是Christoph夫录制的"The Art of Sickness"，Brandes在他的"Iguana Studios"也以他与Necrophagist的录音而闻名，在那里我们采用modern technical death metal制作风格。技术使录音变得更容易，但真正的挑战是知道你想听什么样的声音，想要以及如何将其变为现实。现在我们不再需要在录音室呆一两周来录制专辑。但说实话，我怀念我们过去在工作室里花这么多时间的那些日子和整个乐队一起。

We are very lucky to have Lucas in the band, because he is not only our vocalist but also our sound engineer and producer. He runs his own recording studio "Deep Deep Pressure Studios", so our recent albums carry his personal touch. The turning point for Profanity’s sound was The Art of Sickness, wich was recorded by Christoph Brandes in his "Iguana Studios" also known for his recordings with Necrophagist, where we embraced a modern technical death metal production style. Technology has made recording easier, but the real challenge is knowing what kind of sound you want and how to bring it to life. Now, we no longer need to stay in a studio for one or two weeks to record an album. It’s a great improvement, but honestly, I miss those days when we used to spend so much time in the studio together with the whole band.

V: Feelings, Emotions是你的音乐主题。你为什么选择这个音乐主题？你想通过这个音乐主题表达什么？你创作过歌词吗？谁创作了这些歌词，是什么启发了他？

Feelings, Emotions is your music theme. Why did you choose this music theme? What do you want to express through this music theme? Have you created any lyrics? Who created these lyrics and what inspired them?

D: 我们的音乐不仅在技术上很复杂，而且在情感上也很强烈。我们的许多歌词最初是由我们的前贝斯手Martl Bauer写的。他们深深地个人和内省，处理人类的斗争和黑暗情绪——他们也是与Martl的个人生活密切相关。我们不只是写血腥或恐怖；我们的歌词探索心理学、存在主义主题和原始情绪。现在我将接受挑战，自己写一些歌词、艺术品和音乐!

Our music is not just technically complex—it’s also emotionally intense. Many of our lyrics were originally written by Martl Bauer, our former bassist. They were deeply personal and introspective, dealing with human struggles and dark emotions—they were also closely tied to Martl’s personal life. We don’t just write about gore or horror; our lyrics explore psychology, existential themes, and raw emotions. Now, I will take on the challenge of writing some lyrics myself. Lyrics, artwork, and music all go together.

V: 你乐队的Logo设计很简单，但它在简单中透露出复杂性。谁为你设计了这个Logo？你们的的专辑艺术品也设计独特。谁为你设计了这些专辑艺术品？

The logo design of your band is very simple, but it reveals complexity in simplicity. Who designed this logo for you? Your album artworks are also designed uniquely. Who designed these album artworks for you?

D: 我们的Logo是由我们的前贝斯手Martl在1996年左右设计的。我们希望清楚残酷——可识别、强烈、直接，就像我们的音乐一样。在“The Art of Sickness”中，乐队与传奇金属艺术家Pär Olofsson合作，他捕捉到了这张专辑的技术性、残酷性和黑暗主题完美无瑕。对于“Fragments of Solace”（2020），这件艺术品是由Federico Musetti创作的。他的艺术作品反映这张专辑深刻而存在主义的主题。我们的艺术品始终是我们专辑的重要组成部分，因为它们有助于在视觉上表现强度以及我们音乐的氛围。每个乐队都希望在这方面有自己独特的风格。

Our logo was designed by Martl our former bass player around 1996. We wanted it to have it clear and brutal—recognizable, strong, and direct, just like our music. For The Art of Sickness, the band worked with Pär Olofsson, a legendary metal artist who captured the album’s technical, brutal, and dark themes perfectly. For Fragments of Solace (2020), the artwork was created by Federico Musetti. His artwork reflects the deep, existential themes of the album. Our artworks are always a crucial part of our albums, as they help visually represent the intensity and atmosphere of our music. Every band wants to have its own unique style in that aspect, too.

V: 你是如何联系到Apostasy Records、Cudgel、Brickhouse Music和其他唱片公司合作制作你的专辑的？你对这些品牌的工作满意吗？

How did you get in touch with Apostasy Records, Cudgel, Brickhouse Music and other labels to collaborate on your album? Are you satisfied with the work of these brands?

T: 对于这个问题，我需要打电话给朋友寻求帮助！Thomas，请回答这个问题！

Thomas：

最好从头开始。我们必须回到1996年。我们正在写新歌，我们真的很想把它们放在CD上。这在当时对我们来说是一件大事并不容易，实现。我们没有我们今天所知道的互联网，而且很难获得信息。当时，一切仍然是通过不断发送的手写信件来回的完成。不管怎样，我们的目标很明确：我们想第一次进入专业工作室，然后把歌曲放在CD上。我们实际上采取了老式的方式用手机，当时的“黄页”找了一家录音室。我们在不远处找到了一个这是由Albrecht Felsenstein经营的Brickhouse工作室。我们录制了第一张CD“Shadows To Fall”在那里，他为我们提供了以他的品牌发行CD的机会“Brickhouse music”，这让我们在一些商业事务上变得更容易。但从技术上讲“Shadows To Fall”是一个DIY版本。1997年，Cudgel通过发行“Shadows To Fall”意识到了我们。他们也做到了，我们可以在“Fuck The Commerce III和“Fuck The Commerce II 中玩。那些节日太棒了！！！！我还必须提到，如果没有Cudgel Agency我们可能没有参加过Cryptopsy、Haemorrhage和Spawn的欧洲巡演，2002年的地方。在Cudgel Agency的领导下，出现了以下Profanity言论：1999年Spilt“7'with Lividity”，2000年，我们的第二部完整版“Slaughtering Thoughts”。我们的迷你EP“Hatred Hell Within”于2014年通过Rising Nemesis Records发行。我们在RNR认识Nasar有一段时间了，在瑞士的一场演出中，我们谈到了我们有三首歌想录制并作为EP发行。然后将在2014年年底发行，以“Hatred Hell Within”EP的形式进行练习。当是时候发行另一部完整版时，我们询问了德国的Apostasy Records是否愿意发行，我们从Tomasz那里听到了好消息，当我们2017年4月“The Art of Sickness”最终在Apostasy Records发行。至于我们目前发布的“Fragments of Solace”，我们想尝试一些“新”的东西或回到我们的根。。。可以这么说。“Fragments of Solace”是一个DIY版本。我们以数字包CD的形式发布以及精致的折叠式封面中的乙烯基。但不得不说，我们得到了很多帮助在Anubi Press,的推广下，Luca Pessina做得很好。我们目前正忙于为下一个完整版本写歌，大约这个版本什么时候发行出现。。。。让我们给你一个惊喜，它仍然令人兴奋

For this question, I need to call a friend for help! Thomas… please answer this one!

Thomas:

It's best to start from the beginning. We have to go back to 1996. We were writing new songs and we really wanted to release them on CD. That was a huge thing for us at the time and not easy to realize. We didn't have the Internet as we know it today and it was way more difficult to get information. At that time, everything was still done via handwritten letters that were constantly sent back and forth. Anyway, our goal was clear: we wanted to go into a professional studio for the first time and then release the songs on CD. We actually took the old-fashioned way and used the phone book, the “yellow pages” back then, and looked for a recording studio. We found one not far from us and it was Brickhouse Studio, which was run by Albrecht Felsenstein. We recorded our first CD “Shadows To Fall” there and he offered us the opportunity to release the CD under his label “Brickhouse music” and that made it a bit easier for us with some business things. But technically speaking, “Shadows To Fall” is a DIY release. Cudgel became aware of us through the release of “Shadows To Fall” in 1997. They also made it possible for us to play at the cult open air “Fuck The Commerce II and Fuck The Commerce III”. Those were great festivals!!!! And I must also mention that without Cudgel Agency there would probably have been no European tour for us with Cryptopsy, Haemorrhage and Spawn, which took place in 2002. Under Cudgel Agency the following Profanity releases have appeared: 1999 a split 7'with Lividity, 2000 our second full-length release “Slaughtering Thoughts”. Our mini EP “Hatred Hell Within” was released in 2014 via Rising Nemesis Records. We had known Nasar from RNR for quite a while and at a show in Switzerland we got talking about how we had three songs that we would like to record and release as an EP. This was then put into practice at the end of 2014 in the form of “Hatred Hell Within” EP. When it was time for another full-length release, we asked Apostasy Records from Germany if they would be interested in releasing it. We had only heard good things from Tomasz and when we got his approval for the release, we were all very happy about it. In April 2017, “The Art Of Sickness” was finally released on Apostasy Records. As for our current release “Fragments of Solace”, we wanted to try something “new” or go back to

our roots...so to speak. “Fragments of Solace” is a DIY release. We released FoS as a digi-pack CD and as vinyl in an elaborate gatefold cover. But it has to be said that we had a lot of help with the promotion from Anubi Press, Luca Pessina did a great job. We are currently busy writing the songs for the next full-length release, about when this release will appear.... let us surprise you, it remains exciting

V: 从的早期的Death Metal 到现在的Technical Death Metal，你的作品让我想起了像Suffocation和Disgorge这样的乐队，它们有着强烈的Old School Death Metal氛围。同时你的作品中也有一些Jazz元素。你对自己的作品有什么看法？新专辑和旧专辑之间有什么变化吗？

From the early days of Death Metal to the current Technical Death Metal, your works remind me of bands like Suffocation and DSISGORGE, which have a strong old school death atmosphere. At the same time, you also have some jazz elements in your works. What is your opinion on your own works? Is there any change between the new album and the old album?

D: 你完全正确！Profanity受到了Suffocation/Disgorge/ Hate Eternal/ Deeds of Flesh等乐队的影响，但随着时间的推移，我们融入了更多的technical和progressive 元素。我们所有的朋友和粉丝都知道Thomas是Suffocation的忠实粉丝——我们甚至无法计算他是怎么做到的，很多时候Profanity和Suffocation一起出现在舞台上。他们不仅仅是一个给我们灵感，也是乐队的好朋友。话虽如此，你可以在我们的影响列表中添加如此多的乐队，以至于不可能说出他们所有人的名字。我不想忘记任何乐队，所以我宁愿让名单保持开放——它会巨大！我们早期的专辑有着深厚的Old School Death Metal属基础。我们最近的作品具有更多的technical，progressive 和dynamic元素，同时仍然维持残暴。我们不强迫改变——我们自然进化，在保持我们所爱的同时，不断推动我们的限制。

You’re absolutely right! Profanity has always had a Suffocation/Disgorge/ Hate Eternal/ Deeds of Flesh ....-style brutality, but over time, we have integrated more technical and progressive elements. All our friends and fans know that Thomas is a huge fan of Suffocation—we can’t even count how many times Profanity and Suffocation have shared the stage together. They are not just an inspiration to us, but also good friends of the band. That being said, you could add so many bands to our list of influences that it would be impossible to name them all. I wouldn’t want to forget any band, so I’d rather leave the list open-ended—it would be huge! Our early albums had a strong old-school death metal foundation. Our recent works feature more technical, progressive, and dynamic elements, while still maintaining brutality. We don’t force change—we evolve naturally, keeping what we love while constantly pushing our limits.

V: 你是一支参加过许多音乐节的老乐队。哪些音乐节给你留下了深刻的印象？你能介绍一下当时的现场气氛吗？2025年你还将参加哪些音乐节？

You are an old band that has participated in many music festivals. Which music festivals have left a deep impression on you? Can you introduce the live atmosphere at that time? What other music festivals will you participate in in 2025?

D: 就我个人而言，到目前为止我只在舞台上表演过一次Profanity，很明显那一次有对我影响最大的是——那里没有竞争！我们很幸运能与这么多令人难以置信的乐队同台演出并见到这么多伟大的乐队。所有的演出都很重要——不只有一场演出脱颖而出。即使你在前面演奏，在只有20个人的情况下，你必须尽你最大的努力，让每个人都能享受这一刻。我们很感激有机会在欧洲各地演出，对我们来说最重要的演出总是下一个——因为这是我们必须做好准备并做到完美的一个。2025年，我们计划在几个欧洲国家（法国，德国、瑞士等）。我们还在为十月/十一月的巡演做准备，当然，我们梦想有一天能在亚洲演出！我们已经为2026年制定了一些计划，所以我们可以说我们很幸运能有这样的机会在我们前面。

Personally, I have only played once with Profanity on stage so far, so obviously, that one had the biggest impact on me—no competition there! We’ve been lucky to share the stage with so many incredible bands and to meet so many great people. All gigs are important—there isn’t just one that stands out. Even if you’re playing in front of only 20 people, you have to give your best and make the moment amazing for everyone. We are grateful for the chance to play all over Europe, and to us, the most important gig is always the next one—because that’s the one we have to be ready for and make perfect. For 2025, we’re planning more festival appearances in several European countries (France, Germany, Switzerland, etc.). We’re also working on a tour for October/November, and of course, we dream of playing in Asia one day! We already have some plans for 2026, so we can say that we’re lucky to have such opportunities ahead of us.

V: 距离你上一张专辑已经五年了。你的乐队今年有什么新的工作要做吗，比如创作或录制新作品？你能和大家分享一些信息吗？

It has been five years since your last album. Does your band have any new work to do this year, such as creating or recording new works? Can you share some information with everyone?

D: 对！一张新专辑正在制作中，我们正在努力！我们有很多与这张专辑相关的项目，我们想完成乐队从未以前做过的事情。我们有很多想法，我们对它的发展方向感到兴奋！

Yes! A new album is in progress, and we are working hard on it! We have many projects tied to this album, and we want to accomplish things that the band has never done before. We have a lot of ideas, and we’re excited about where this is going!

V: Profanity是一个经典的老乐队，我是你乐队的忠实粉丝。我将永远支持和追随你的乐队，我也希望通过这次采访吸引更多的中国粉丝关注和支持你的乐队。最后你有什么想对你的中国粉丝朋友说的吗？

Profanity is a classic old band, and I am a loyal fan of your band. I will always support and follow your band, and I also hope to attract more Chinese fans to follow and support your band through this event. Do you have anything you want to say to your Chinese fan friends in the end?

D: 感谢你的支持！我们真的希望有一天能在中国演出，把我们的音乐带到你们的舞台。保持残忍，继续支持极端金属！这是我作为Profanity组织成员的第一次参与，我很高兴和你见面。

Thank you for your support! We truly hope to play in China one day and bring our music to your stage. Stay brutal, and keep supporting extreme metal! It was my 1st interwiew as a Profanity’s member, I’m glad to have done with you.