虚空 / 迷失 - 澳大利亚Progressive Metal乐队Pyrefly专访

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来自澳大利亚悉尼的前卫金属乐队 Pyrefly 自2016年成立以来，一直尝试在技术性、情绪表达与音乐叙事之间寻找平衡。他们的作品既带有前卫金属复杂多变的结构，也保留了情感化旋律与现代金属的冲击力。在越来越趋于同质化的当代金属环境中，Pyrefly 更像是在用音乐搭建一场关于自我、混乱与现实感知的精神实验。本次采访，我们将从音乐理念、创作技术、金属文化以及成员内心世界等角度，深入聊聊他们的声音世界。

（V: 代表笔者 K: 代表KJ）

Since forming in Sydney, Australia in 2016, progressive metal band Pyrefly has been exploring the balance between technicality, emotional expression, and musical storytelling. Their music combines the complex structures of progressive metal with emotional melodies and the intensity of modern metal. In an era where heavy music is becoming increasingly homogenized, Pyrefly feels more like a sonic experiment about self-awareness, chaos, and the perception of reality. In this interview, we will dive into their musical philosophy, songwriting process, metal culture, and inner world.

(V: Author K: KJ)

采访对象：KJ（Pyrefly乐队吉他 / 歌手）

采访时间：2026.05.22

V: 嗨，朋友你好！请先向中国的听众简单介绍一下 Pyrefly。你们最初是如何聚在一起组建这支乐队的？

Hi, guys! First of all, please introduce Pyrefly to the Chinese audience. How did the band originally come together?

K: 我叫KJ，是Pyrefly乐队的主唱。多年前，我们只是一群想身体力行、付诸实践的音乐教师。当时我们甚至不知道想走什么风格，所以不管什么声音，只要感觉对了就写下来。我和乐队创始鼓手卡特里娜、主音吉他手安德鲁一起演奏了几年，直到卡特里娜不幸离世。当时我和安德鲁都准备解散乐队，但特丽娜的一位鼓生艾拉妮丝坚决不让我们放弃。有了艾拉妮丝的加入，加上贝斯手特雷德利，我们重新站稳了脚跟，也重新找回了音乐带来的快乐。最近，我们迎来了新成员哈迪斯·地狱之火，他负责节奏鼓，这套阵容感觉终于完整了！

My name is KJ and I’m the vocalist of Pyrefly. We started many years back as a bunch of tutors who wanted to walk the walk. We didn’t event know what genre we wanted to be, so we just wrote whatever the hell felt right regardless of sound. Myself, our founding drummer Katrina and our lead guitarist Andrew played for a couple of years before Katrina tragically passed away. Andrew and I were ready to call it in, but Alanis, one of Trina’s drum students, wouldn’t let us quit. With Alanis behind us and Treadly on bass, we found our feet again and started taking joy in what we were doing again. We recently added our boy Hades Hellfire to the mix picking up Rhythm duties, and the lineup feels complete!

V: 澳大利亚金属乐一直拥有独特的地下氛围。你们觉得悉尼本地的金属场景对 Pyrefly 的形成产生了哪些影响？

Australian metal has always had a very unique underground atmosphere. How has the Sydney metal scene influenced the formation and sound of Pyrefly?

K: 我们在音乐风格和舞台表现上始终坚守本色，走自己的路，打出了自己的名号，但悉尼金属乐圈对我们的影响远不止于此。这里是我们的家，是我们的一家人。我们的悉尼金属乐家族一直陪伴着我们，从简陋的小酒馆到大型音乐节，再到国际巡演的暖场演出，他们始终为我们呐喊助威，与我们共同庆祝。我常说，任何建立在松动地基上的房子注定会倒塌，但我们在悉尼的朋友、家人和乐迷，是我能想到的最坚实的地基，是我们传承的基石。我们或许会一无所有，但只要悉尼还有舞台，我们就有演出可以回归，就有支持我们的人，而我们也会尽己所能回馈新晋乐队和资深乐队。简而言之，悉尼的金属乐圈让我们团结一心，让我们脚踏实地，并激励我们不断进步。

We’ve always been steadfast in our sound and stagecraft, doing our own thing and making a name for ourselves, but the Sydney metal scene does so much more than influence us. It’s our home, our family. Our Sydney metal family has been with us from dive bars to festivals and international supports, cheering us on and celebrating alongside us. I’ve always said that any house built on shifting foundations is destined to fall, but the friends, family and fans we have in Sydney are the strongest foundation to build our legacy on that I can think of. We could find ourselves with absolutely nothing, but as long as Sydney has stages we will have shows to come home to, and people to support us, and we give back as much as we can to newcomers and established acts alike. So in short, the Sydney metal scene keeps us together, keeps us grounded, and pushes us to be better.

V: 你们的音乐被定义为Progressive Metal，但实际上其中也能听到现代金属、旋律金属甚至情绪化音乐的元素。你们如何理解前卫这个概念？ 

Your music is often described as “Progressive Metal,” but listeners can also hear elements of modern metal, melodic metal, and emotional music in your sound. What does the word “progressive” mean to you?

K: 说实话，我们一直随心所欲地创作，从不拘泥于流派。我们的歌曲风格涵盖了传统金属、和声小调乃至弗里吉亚调式的史诗作品，但这一切都是为了服务于歌曲本身。这也使得人们很难将我们归入某个特定的流派，但这不正是乐趣的一半吗？令人窒息的节奏、朗朗上口的副歌、真挚的情感表达，以及通过变换拍号展现的精妙舞台表现力——这一切都只是我们做自己。我认为“前卫金属”这个标签，其实是用来定义那些难以归类的音乐的，它们不断突破框架，只为寻找最棒的歌曲。我们的宗旨很简单：要有趣、要有娱乐性、要真实。

Honestly, we have always written whatever feels right regardless of genre. We have songs that range from trad metal through the harmonic minor and Phrygian epics, but it all of it is to serve the song. It’s made it difficult to button us down to one genre in particular, but that’s half the fun isn’t it? Soul crushing beats, catchy hooks, emotional honesty and tricky showmanship with changing time signatures, all of it is just us being us. I think progressive regarding metal is a way to define music that is otherwise hard to define, that constantly creeps outside of the box looking for the best songs. Our mission statement is simple, be fun, be entertaining, be real.

V: 很多前卫金属乐队会陷入“技术炫技”的倾向，而 Pyrefly 的作品似乎更强调情绪与氛围。你们如何在“技术性”和“情感表达”之间取得平衡？

Many progressive metal bands tend to focus heavily on technical showmanship, but Pyrefly seems to emphasize emotion and atmosphere more. How do you balance technicality with emotional expression?

K: 每首歌都有自己的身份和信息，由歌词和音乐统一。我的意思是，当我们写作时，我们通常是先为现场表演写作，考虑我们希望它对现场观众的观感，而不是听起来。从那里开始，很多技术性都来自于我们挑战自己的极限，无论是我试图打出我还没有打出的音符，安德鲁的演奏速度比以前快，还是阿兰尼斯和特雷德利驾驶着疯狂的多节奏音乐，但技术性总是排在气氛和情感之后。在我们的歌曲"Blind"中，有一个片段在每次旋转时都会在7/8和4/4之间反弹。它快速而混乱，但这首歌本身是关于与疯狂和躁狂的斗争，所以当这一部分出现时，它几乎感觉就像一个躁狂的头脑在自我斗争。因此，技术性是设计出来的，但仅限于支持歌曲。

Each song has its own identity and message, unified by lyrics and music. I mean, when we write we are usually writing for the live show first, thinking about how we want it to look and feel for a live audience more than how it sounds. From there, a lot of the technicality comes from us pushing our own limits, whether it be me trying to hit notes that I haven’t hit yet, Andrew playing faster than before, or Alanis and Treadly driving crazy polyrhythms, but the technicality always comes second to the atmosphere and emotion. In our song Blind, there’s a section that bounces between 7/8 and 4/4 with each rotation. It’s quick and chaotic, but the song itself is about a struggle with madness and mania, so by the time that section comes up it almost feels like a manic mind fighting itself. So the technicality is by design, but only so far as it supports the song.

V: 从金属乐的发展历史来看，你们认为现代前卫金属相比 Dream Theater、Opeth 等早期代表，最大的变化是什么？ 

Looking at the history of metal music, what do you think is the biggest difference between modern progressive metal and earlier pioneers like Dream Theater or Opeth?

K: 许多现代进步金属似乎都融入了当前的Djent运动，从梦剧院的技术性和规模性剧本中汲取了灵感，超越了Opeth的大气运动。看到这些音乐家中的一些人能做什么真是令人难以置信，但我总是发现自己被前卫音乐更黑暗、更残酷的一面所吸引。像Opeth和豪猪树这样的乐队，深深地融入了黑暗的氛围和情感的重压中，这让我着迷。目前，澳大利亚有一些演员正在走这条路，即霸王龙尸检，看到这一幕真是太棒了。就我个人而言，我来自极限金属和前卫音乐学校，通过听一堆Strapping Young Lad和Devin Townsend项目，学习了很多声乐技巧和歌曲创作技巧。进步深入，变得异常沉重，并且不害怕不认真对待自己。

A lot of modern progressive metal seems to fall into the current Djent movement, taking cues from the Dream Theatre playbook of technicality and scale over the atmospheric movements of Opeth. It’s incredible seeing what some of these musicians can do, but I’ve always found myself drawn to the darker and more brutal side of prog. Bands like Opeth and Porcupine Tree that lean heavily into that dark atmosphere and emotional weight, it fascinates me. We have a few acts in Australia currently who are walking that path, namely T-Rex Autopsy, and it’s amazing to see. Personally though, I come from the school of extreme metal and prog, learning much of my vocal craft and songwriting skills by listening to a heap of Strapping Young Lad and Devin Townsend Project. Prog that gets deep, gets brutally heavy and isn’t afraid to not take itself seriously.

V: 在创作时，你们通常是从吉他 Riff、旋律、节奏，还是概念主题开始发展一首歌？

When writing music, do your songs usually begin with a guitar riff, a melody, a rhythm, or a conceptual idea?

K: 我们的歌曲创作过程相当简单。安德鲁和我写了大部分的音乐，我们倾向于分开做。我自己的过程通常始于我陷入困境的节奏，就像我坐在交通堵塞中，发动机的持续隆隆声会点燃一个想法，或者我会听到有人掉东西，它会发出我无法摆脱的咔嗒声。我们最近的单曲"The Void"就是这样开始的！我坐在一家我举办活动的酒吧里，有人掉了一个杯子，它撞上了这个很酷的三胞胎，我发现自己一遍又一遍地播放这个声音，直到我不得不把它写成一首歌。

Our songwriting process is pretty simple. Andrew and myself write most of the music, and we tend to do it separately. My own process usually starts with a rhythm that I get stuck on, like I’ll be sitting in traffic and the constant rumble of my engine will ignite an idea, or I’ll hear someone drop something and it’ll clatter in a way that I can’t get out of my head. Our recent single The Void started exactly like that! I was sitting at a bar I ran events at and someone dropped a cup and it hit with this cool triplet, and I found myself running that sound over and over until I had to get it out in a song.

V: 录音和制作方面，你们更追求“干净精确”的现代声音，还是保留一定的 Lo-fi 粗糙感与现场感？

In terms of recording and production, do you prefer a clean and precise modern sound, or do you like to preserve some lo-fi roughness and live atmosphere?

K: 我喜欢干净而精确的现代声音。我们拥有使音乐听起来完全符合我们想要的技术，我们自己也有幸在PAL Studios拥有一位绝对令人难以置信的制作人和混音师Justin Gonzales。他对分层有着惊人的天赋，通过他，我们能够创造出超越我们最初愿景的东西。这并不是说我不喜欢粗糙的声音，但我认为这是非常特定于流派的。一个干净的Punk或Grindcore乐队感觉不对，因为这些流派需要这种勇气才能蓬勃发展。

I’m a sucker for a clean and precise modern sound. We have the technology to make the music sound exactly as we want it to, and we ourselves have been blessed with an absolutely incredible producer and mixer in Justin Gonzales at PAL Studios. He has an amazing ear for layering, and through him we were able to create something that exceeded our original vision. That’s not to say I don’t love a rough sound but I think it’s very genre specific though. A clean produced punk or grindcore band feels wrong, because those genres need that grit to thrive.

V: 你们是否会把现实压力、焦虑或个人经历投射进音乐里？音乐对你们而言更像“表达”，还是一种“释放”？

Do you project real-life pressure, anxiety, or personal experiences into your music? For you personally, is music more about expression or emotional release?

K: 从歌词上讲，我们所有的歌曲都是关于与不良心理健康的激烈斗争。我自己也被诊断为疯狂，即BPD。我经常觉得和自己完全不一致，但这会带来好音乐。虚空是关于狂热的那一刻，你意识到自己对自己造成的伤害，但无力阻止它，男爵将这种自我毁灭的本性描述为一种将我推向更黑暗、更痛苦的地方的存在。我确实发现它有助于处理我的日常生活，将这种痛苦倾注到我们的艺术中。Metal是被抛弃的音乐，由被抛弃者为被抛弃者创作。那些按照自己的节奏走路的人，不在正常范围内。我们都是班上唯一一个听金属音乐、穿黑色衣服、染发、想纹身的人，但突然发现自己成为了世界上最大的社区之一的一部分。对我来说，金属就是自由。在任何时候都可以毫无歉意地做自己，在这方面，我找到了和我有同样感受的人。没有像金属迷这样的音乐迷。你可以去世界上任何一个城市，如果你看到有人穿着杀手或Gojira衬衫，你在那里有一个朋友。天哪，安德鲁和我年轻的时候就成了朋友，因为我们穿着金属衬衫。如果有人喜欢流行音乐，他们就喜欢它，但如果有人对金属感兴趣，他们绝对会生活和呼吸它。

Lyrically, all of our songs are about intense struggles with poor mental health. I myself am diagnosed crazy, namely BPD. I often feel completely at odds with myself, but it makes for good music. The Void is about that moment of mania where you are aware of the damage you are doing to yourself, but are powerless to stop it, and The Baron characterises that self destructive nature into a being pushing me into a darker and more painful place. I do find it has helped deal with my daily life, pouring this pain into our art. Metal is outcast music, written by outcasts for outcasts. People who walk to their own beat, outside of the norm. We all grew up being the only one in our class that listened to metal, dressed in black, dyed our hair and wanted tattoos, but then suddenly found ourselves a part of one of the biggest communities in the world. To me, metal is freedom. Freedom to be unapologetically myself at any point in time, and in that have found people who feel the same as I do. There are no music fans like metal fans. You can go to any city in the world, and if you see someone wearing a Slayer or Gojira shirt, you’ve got a friend there. Hell, Andrew and I became friends when we were young because we were wearing metal shirts. If someone likes pop, they like it, but if someone is into metal, they absolutely live and breathe it.

V: 你们认为金属乐最核心的价值是什么？是反叛、自由、诚实，还是别的东西？ 

What do you think is the core value of metal music? Rebellion, freedom, honesty, or something else?

K: 金属是我们最后可以捶胸顿足、互相碰撞的地方之一。完全的原始释放。我认为，与其说它直面现实，不如说它反映了现实的深层次。世界很糟糕，我们很生气。生活是痛苦的，我们受伤了。金属既是我们对抗世界的剑，也是保护我们免受世界伤害的盾牌，也是我们观察世界的透镜。告诉我，当食人尸在你耳边爆炸时，你在人群中行走时不会感到更大更强。

Metal is one of the last places where we can beat our chests and run into each other. Full primal release. I would argue that it doesn’t confront reality so much as it reflects the deeper parts of it. World sucks, we are angry. Life is painful, we are hurting. Metal is both our sword to fight the world and our shield to protect us from it, and the lens through which we view it. Tell me you don’t feel bigger and stronger walking through a crowd with Cannibal Corpse blasting in your ears.

V: 很多人认为金属乐是一种“对抗现实”的艺术，你们是否认同这种观点？ 

Many people see metal as an art form that confronts reality. Do you agree with that perspective?

K: 我不得不说个性。技术、想法、氛围，如果你只是在做已经完成的事情，那么这些对进步的名字来说都没有任何意义。以Opeth、豪猪树、Meshuggah和DTP这样的伟大作品为例，它们听起来都很进步。他们以自己的方式使用上述所有元素，以挑战周围一切的方式前进。

I would have to say individuality. Technique, ideas, atmosphere, none of it means anything to the progressive name if you are just doing what’s already been done. Take the greats like Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Meshuggah and DTP, and not one sounds remotely like the other but it’s all progressive. They use all of the aforementioned elements in their own ways, forging ahead in ways that defy everything around them.

V: 在你们看来，一支真正优秀的前卫金属乐队最重要的东西是什么：技术、思想、氛围、还是独特性？ 

In your opinion, what is the most important quality of a truly great progressive metal band: technique, ideas, atmosphere, or individuality?

K: 这可能是迄今为止最难回答的问题！如果我必须用一句话来表达，我会说；我们把心放在袖子上，把它倾注在我们所做的一切中，从工作室到舞台。

This might be the hardest question so far! If I had to do it in one sentence, I’d say; We wear our hearts on our sleeves and pour that into everything we do, from studio to stage.

V: 最后请对中国支持前卫金属与地下金属的乐迷说几句话。

Finally, please leave a few words for Chinese fans who support progressive metal and underground metal music.

K: 首先，我要感谢GlobMetal让我们取得联系！能够与国际观众建立联系是最酷的事情之一，克斯特亚一直是我们在不久前似乎不可能的地方寻找观众的重要组成部分。绝对的国王。对于可能第一次发现我们的中国粉丝，非常感谢您抽出时间来了解我们。我无法用言语表达我们对有机会与大家分享我们自己这一非常重要的部分的感激之情，我们希望你们能喜欢我们所听到的。最后，感谢您接受我们的采访。与你交谈，我深感荣幸。保持金属🤘🤘

Firstly I wanna thank GlobMetal for getting us in touch! Being able to connect with an international audience is one of the coolest things, and Kostya has been a big part of us finding audiences in places that seemed impossible a short time ago. Absolute king. To the Chinese fans who may be discovering us for the first time, thank you so much for taking the time to check us out. I can’t put into words how grateful we are for the opportunity to share this very important part of ourselves with all of you, and we hope you enjoy what you hear. Finally, thank you for having us for this interview. It’s been an absolute pleasure talking with you. Stay metal 🤘🤘