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死亡恐惧 - 俄罗斯Brutal Death Metal/Goregrind乐队S.C.A.T专访

今天要为大家介绍的是一支来自俄罗斯的Brutal Death Metal/Goregrind乐队S.C.A.T，2006年吉他手Hort和贝斯手Don Anton组建了这支乐队，2006年也正式发行第一首单曲，2009年乐队发行了第一张EP专辑“Kill the Swine!”，这张专辑包含了11首歌曲，虽然只有短短的十分钟，但是他们完美的演绎了捷克Grindcore乐队的风格，怪异，扭曲的音色，中速的Grindcore也是这支乐队的最大特点，再以速度为主的当时，S.C.A.T.乐队却以捷克Grindcore的特点为主，还带有浓重的Groovy元素，2011年乐队在俄罗斯本土厂牌Coyote Records发行了第一张专辑“Apopatophobia”，这张专辑发行之后受到了俄罗斯和其他国家的歌迷和乐评人的好评，2016年乐队在捷克Bizarre Leprous Production厂牌发行了第二张正式专辑“The Greatest Shits”，2019年和来自墨西哥的Pigtails乐队在西班牙Base Record Production厂牌发行了一张Spilt专辑，前不久我联系到了S.C.A.T.乐队进行了一次采访！

（V: 代表笔者 S: 代表S.C.A.T.）

Today we'd like to introduce you to a Brutal Death Metal/Goregrind band from Russia, S.C.A.T. Guitarist Hort and bassist Don Anton formed the band in 2006, and the first single was also officially released in 2006, and in 2009 the band released their first EP album "Kill the Swine!", the album contains eleven songs, although only ten minutes, but they perfectly interpreted the style of Czech Grindcore bands, weird, distorted tone, mid-tempo grindcore is also the band's biggest feature, and then to speed-based At the time, S.C.A.T. was a Czech Grindcore band with a strong Groovy element. 2011 saw the release of the band's first album "Apopatophobia" on Russian label Coyote Records, which was well received in Russia and beyond. The album was well received by fans and critics in Russia and elsewhere, and in 2016 the band released their second album "The Greatest Shits" on the Czech label Bizarre Leprous Production, and in 2019 they released their second album "The Greatest Shits" on the Spanish label Bizarre Leprous Production, together with the Mexican band Pigtails. Pigtails released a Spilt album on Base Record Production in Spain in 2019, and not long ago I contacted S.C.A.T. for an interview!

(V: for the author S: for S.C.A.T.)

采访对象：S.C.A.T.（S.C.A.T.乐队)

采访时间：2024.02.26

V: 你好兄弟很高兴见到你，非常感谢你参加这次采访，我想这是你们乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访，首先向你们的中国歌迷问个好，S.C.A.T.乐队成立于2006年，是俄罗斯的一支老牌Brutal Death Metal/Goregrind乐队，当初是谁发起组建这支乐队的？乐队名字的含义是什么？

Hello brother nice to meet you and thank you very much for participating in this interview, I think this is the first time that your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine, first of all say hello to your Chinese fans, S.C.A.T was formed in 2006, it is a veteran Russian Brutal Death Metal/Goregrind band, who initiated the formation of this band in the first place, and who is responsible for the formation of this band? What does the name mean?

S: 向所有中国（不仅是）Grindcore乐迷问好！是的兄弟你说得没错：这的确是我们第一次接受中国杂志/网络杂志的采访。太棒了！乐队是如何成立的？早在遥远的2006年，吉他手Hort和贝斯手Don Anton就萌生了组建乐队的想法。我们的第一首歌就是在那时诞生的。当时中速Gridcore音乐大行其道，尤其是在捷克Grindcore音乐界。当时的许多乐队激发了我们创作此类音乐的灵感--极端、阴暗，但又令人难以置信地具有舞蹈性和趣味性并配有怪诞扭曲的歌词。至于S.C.A.T.这个名字，它出现于2006年，是一个缩写，强调了我们在作品中探索的主题精神--一种荒诞的亡灵变态。每一个细心的粉丝都能解读出它的含义，尤其是我们已经将它的含义嵌入了我们其中一个版本的标题中。来吧，大胆探索吧！哈哈 🤘

Hello to all Chinese (and not only) grindcore fans! Yep, bro, you’re right: this is indeed our first interview for a Chinese magazine/webzine. It’s great! So how it get started. The idea of forming the band came about back in the now distant year 2006, thanks to guitarist Hort and bassist Don Anton. That’s when our first songs came to life. At that time, there was a domination of mid-tempo grindcore, especially in Czech music grind-scene. Many bands from that time inspired us to create music of this kind — extreme, occasionally dark, yet incredibly danceable and fun, complete with grotesque and twisted lyrics. As for the name S.C.A.T., that emerged in the same year 2006, it’s an abbreviation that underscores the spirit of themes we explore in our stuff — sort of necro-scatological perversions taken to the absurd. Every attentive fan can decipher it, especially since we’ve embedded its meaning in the title of one of our releases. So go ahead, dare to explore! Ha-ha. 🤘

V: 你们一直保持着原班人马，从未更换过任何成员，我想这使得你们在歌曲创作方面非常方便，因为你们彼此非常了解，知道对方想要创作什么样的音乐，能跟我们说说你们的创作过程吗？

You've always kept the original line-up and never changed any of the members, I think that makes you very close in terms of songwriting as you know each other very well and know what kind of music each other wants to create, can you tell us a little bit about your songwriting process?

S: 不完全是。目前，原班人马只剩下Hort和FeFe。2012年Don Anton离开了乐队（这也是我们在2012年OEF上以三人组形式演出的原因）取而代之的是 Shutter。毫无疑问Shutter现在是我们乐队不可或缺的一部分。此外我们的鼓手KanalizatoR也于2021年离开了乐队，现在他的位置仍然空缺。乐队所有成员对音乐的喜好各不相同。实际上我们听的音乐类型非常广泛。但正是由于这些不同的喜好，S.C.A.T.乐队的作品无法被贴上与任何特定音乐"流派"相关的 "经典"Grindcore标签--无论是德国的、捷克的、法国的、拉美的，甚至是俄罗斯的。有时我们的音乐确实能在Grincore场景中脱颖而出。这对我们来说并无大碍。对我们来说，Grindcore就是自由，包括在我们的音乐中。当然，如果我们将Grindcore视为音乐的话！😉

Not exactly. At the moment, only Hort and FeFe remain from the original lineup. In the year 2012 Don Anton left the band (which is why our performance at OEF 2012 took place as a trio), and he was replaced by Shutter. Undoubtedly, Shutter is an integral part of our band now. Also our drummer KanalizatoR left the band in 2021. Still his place is vacant. All members of the band have very different musical preferences. Really, we listen to a wide variety of genres. But thanks to these diverse tastes, S.C.A.T.'s stuff cannot be labeled as “classic” grindcore associated with any specific music “school” — whether German, Czech, French, Latin American, or even Russian. Sometimes our music truly stands out in the grind scene. And it’s ok for us. For us, grindcore is freedom, including within our music. Of course, if we consider grindcore as music at all! 😉

V: 你们乐队的Logo绝对是我见过的最有创意的Logo，是谁为你们设计的？你们的专辑封面也非常独特，是谁为你们设计的？

Your band's logo is definitely the most creative logo I've ever seen, who created it for you, and your album artwork is very unique, who designed the artwork for you?

S: Hort和Don Anton设计了这个Logo，而不是乐队以外的设计师。描述这个想法是如何产生的很有挑战性--纯粹是灵感，哈哈。最初在一次公园郊游时，他们用小刀在地上画出了这个极具辨识度的徽标。没过几天Don Anton就用电脑上的Photoshop把这个概念变成了现实。它就这样出现在了我们的首张EP"Kill the Swine!"上。关于专辑的艺术作品--从专辑“Apopatophobia”开始，我们与我们的好朋友Eugeny（Grindcore乐队Sordid Clot的主唱）进行了合作。在我们看来，他的作品令人难以置信！在视觉上，它完全捕捉到了我们通过声音和歌词传达的东西。

Hort and Don Anton created the logo, not designers from outside the band. Describing how the idea came about is challenging — it was pure inspiration, ha-ha. Initially, the recognizable logo was drawn with a knife on the ground during a park outing. Within a couple of days, Don Anton brought the concept to life using Photoshop on a computer. That’s how it appeared on our debut EP, “Kill the Swine!” About album artworks — starting from the album “Apopatophobia,” we’ve collaborated with very good friend of us Eugeny (vocalist from grindcore band Sordid Clot). In our view, his works are incredible! Visually, it fully captures what we convey through sound and lyrics.

V: 您的音乐主题是恐怖和Porn，为什么选择这样的音乐主题？你想通过这个音乐主题表达什么？你写歌词吗？他的灵感来源是什么？

Your musical themes are about horror and Porn, why did you choose such musical themes? What do you want to express through this music theme? Did you write any lyrics and who wrote them? What was his inspiration?

S: 恐怖和Porn绝对不是我们讨论的唯一主题。可以说"Coprophilia"主题在我们的歌词中占主导地位。我们为什么要谈这个？这很自然。所有生物每天都会排便，这是我们生存不可分割的一部分，人的内心是一个不可思议的微观世界，有其自身的规律和混乱。如果假装这不是我们自身的一部分，假装它是外来的、可耻的东西，那将是自欺欺人。我们是这个微观世界以及与之相关的一切的探索者。我们毫无羞耻地大声说话。当然我们在这方面并非独一无二。许多Grindcore和Death Metal乐队都采用了这样的主题。这与我们的心灵和思想息息相关。尽管我们的歌名是用英语翻译的，但我们的歌词却是用俄语写的。在保留语音细微差别、惯用表达和文化特征的同时进行翻译是一项挑战。有时，即使是翻译过来的歌名也无法表达我们母语中的文字游戏。但我们能做什么呢？尤其是当我们的演唱者用国际语言的咆哮声表达这一切时--文字变成了纯粹的原始咆哮！😉

Horror and Eroticism definitely are not the only topics we discuss. It can be said that Coprophilia themes dominate in our lyrics. Why we speak about that? This is so natural. All living beings defecates daily — it’s an integral part of our existence. Within people lies an incredible microcosm with its own laws and chaos. Pretending that this isn’t a part of ourselves, that it’s something foreign and shameful, would be self-deception. We are explorers of this microcosm and everything related to it. We speak loud without any shame. Of course, we are not unique in this regard. Such themes are used in many grindcore and death metal bands. However, it’s close to our hearts and minds. Despite our song titles translated in English, our lyrics was written in Russian. Translating that all while preserving phonetic nuances, idiomatic expressions, and cultural identity is challenging. Sometimes even translated titles fail to convey the wordplay embedded in our native language. But what can we do? Especially when our vocalist expresses it all in the international language of guttural growls — words become pure primal roar! 😉

V: 你们与Base Record Production、Bizarre Leprous Production和Coyote Records合作发行过专辑，这些都是很棒的厂牌，你们是如何与这些厂牌取得联系并进行合作的？

You've released albums with Base Record Production, Bizarre Leprous Production, Coyote Records - all great labels, how did you get in touch with these labels to collaborate?

S: 你还必须提到RottenRollRex--一个值得关注的德国优秀Grindcore厂牌。RottenRollRex的老板Marco首先对我们的作品做出了回应。2010年，我们通过RRR与Choked By Own Vomits发行了两张合辑。很多人问我们"成功"的秘诀，但老实说，没有什么秘诀。我们把音乐送给我们欣赏的厂牌，送给那些我们自己也会听的厂牌。如果他们欣赏我们的作品，我们的任务就完成了。

You also have to mention RottenRollRex — an outstanding grind label from Germany that deserves attention. It was Marco, the owner of RRR, who first responded to our stuff. In 2010, we released a 2-way split album with Choked By Own Vomits through RRR. Many people ask us about the secret to our “success”, but honestly, there’s no secret. We send our music to labels we admire, to ones whose releases we listen to ourselves. If they appreciate our stuff, job is done.

V: 你们成立于2006年，但2009年才发行了第一张专辑，为什么选择在三年后发行专辑？我知道你们四个人组建了一支叫Madest的Old School Grindcoe乐队，你们是不是因为忙于这支乐队的事情而导致S.C.A.T.乐队被搁置了？

You formed in 2006 but your first release was only in 2009, why did you choose to release an album three years later? You haven't released anything as a band since 2019, what's the reason why you haven't released any new material, I know that the four of you formed a band called Madest old school grindcore band, were you guys busy with this band and that caused S.C.A.T to be put on hold?

S: 我们是在2008年第一次登上舞台的。但从2006年到我们首次亮相的那两年，我们不仅仅是在制作和掌握我们的东西。我们的核心在于组建乐队的其余成员：我们的鼓手Kanalizator和我们的歌手FeFe。2008年底，FeFe加入了我们的行列，我们的乐队才真正活跃起来，在舞台上肆意践踏，制造噪音攻击。至于Madest项目。我们的音乐倾向开始出现分歧。我们感觉到S.C.A.T.的艺术轨迹正在偏离我们最初的"低劣的血腥Grindcore"之路。我们恍然大悟，我们有一种独特的表达方式等待着我们去迸发--一种Old School Grindcoe表现形式，注入了尖锐的社会评论，所有这些都是用通用的英语写成的。于是我们以同样的阵容创建了"最疯狂"乐队。但自2020年起，动荡的时代席卷全球。各种原因你知道的，挑战影响着每个人，不幸的是这是一场持续的斗争。

It was in 2008 that we took our first steps onto the stage. But those two years from 2006 leading up to our debut were not just about crafting and mastering our stuff. The heart of our way lay in assembling the remaining members of our band: our percussive forcerer — Kanalizator, and our vocal sorcerer — FeFe. It was only after FeFe joined us in late 2008 that our band truly came alive, stomping stages and birthing our noise attacks. As for Madest project. You see, our musical inclinations began to diverge. We sensed that S.C.A.T.'s artistic trajectory was veering from our original «shitty gore grind» path. It dawned upon us that we had a distinct expression waiting to burst forth — an old-school grindcore manifestation infused with sharp social commentary, all written in the universal tongue of English. Thus, with the same lineup, we created Madest. But since 2020 — the tumultuous times that swept across the world. Various reasons, you know. Challenges that affected everyone. Unfortunately, it’s an ongoing struggle.

V: 你们已经很久没有发行作品了，但我一直在关注你们的乐队，我对你们的乐队印象非常深刻，尤其是你们的录音非常干净，旋律让我无法忘怀，你们的歌手真的很棒，我非常喜欢你们的歌声，口哨式的演唱真的很棒，你们的伴唱歌手的嗓音也很棒，有种阴柔的感觉，你对自己的作品有什么看法？

It's been a long time since you guys released anything but I've been following your band and I'm really impressed with your band, especially your recordings are so clean and have melodies that I can't get out of my head, your singers are really great, I love your singing so much, the whistle blowing is really enjoyable, and your backing singers are super watery with their guttural voices, what's your opinion of your own material?

S: 你知道，很难客观地评价我们自己的艺术。但毫无疑问，我们对自己的创作非常投入！每首歌都有我们的个人风格--这里没有复制粘贴的废话。当灵感迸发时，我们会寻找那些动听的旋律和新鲜的东西，同时牢牢把握住Grindcore歌曲的节奏。也许这就是我们没有大量发行的原因。我们的新歌并不是每一个吉他旋律都能入选。我们一直在寻找独一无二的东西，寻找我们从未做过的东西。

You know, it’s hard to be all objective about our own art. But hey, we’re totally into what we create, no doubt! Every song gets our personal flair — no copy-paste nonsense here. When inspiration hits, we seek those earworm melodies, something fresh, all while keeping our feet firmly in the danceable grindcore. Maybe that’s why we don’t have a ton of releases. Not every guitar riff makes the cut for our new songs. We’re always on the hunt for something unique, something we haven’t done before.

V: 你们的专辑作品在录音方面真的很出色，我非常喜欢你们的录音效果，你们是在哪个录音棚录制的专辑？哪位录音师录制了你们的专辑？

Your album artwork is really outstanding in terms of recording, I love your recording results so much, what studio did you all record the album in? Which recording engineer recorded your albums?

S: 好吧，至于走过我们道路的录音师，只有“The Greatest Shits”专辑的混音和母带制作不是由我们自己完成的，而是由一位朋友完成的。当然他取得了辉煌的胜利！但是S.C.A.T.发行的其他所有专辑都是我们自己亲手制作的。是的在不同的录音室录制，但混音和母带都是由我们按照永恒的原则完成的：D.I.Y. - Do It Yourself!

Well, as for the sound engineers who’ve walked our path, only “The Greatest Shits” album was mixed and mastered by someone other than ourselves — a friend who faced the challenge of extreme genres for the first time. Sure he triumphed splendidly! But all other S.C.A.T. releases were our own handwork. Yep, recorded in various studios, but mixed and mastered by us accorded to the timeless principle: “D.I.Y. — Do It Yourself!”

V: 你们的乐队曾在许多音乐节上进行过现场表演，有哪些音乐节给你们留下了深刻的印象？能描述一下这些音乐节的氛围吗？

Your band has played a lot of festivals very live, what are some of the festivals that have left a lasting impression on you? Can you describe the atmosphere at those festivals?

S: 几乎每个音乐节的气氛都无法形容！真的，你必须亲身经历。当然，Grindcore音乐节的摇篮--Obscene Extreme音乐节在我们心中永远占有一席之地。我们还想提及俄罗斯的夏季音乐节“Shallow Grave”，它的阵容和组织工作一直都很令人满意。与俱乐部音乐节不同，露天音乐节的确有其独特的氛围，因此能让人久久回味。音乐节的场地、周围的空间--所有这一切都会影响你的心情、你的感知等等。

The atmosphere at litteraly every festival is indescribable! No, really, you just have to experience it. Of course, The Obscene Extreme Festival — the cradle of grindcore fests — holds a permanent place in our hearts. We’d also like to mention the Russian summer festival “Shallow Grave”, which consistently delights with its lineups and organization. Open-air events indeed have their own unique atmosphere, unlike club festivals, so it linger in your memory for a long time. The festival grounds, the space around it — all of it influences your mood, your perceptions, and much more.

V: 你们已经很久没有发行新专辑了，2024年有什么新工作要进行吗？比如创作、录制新歌或者参加更多的音乐节，能透露一些信息吗？

It's been a long time since you've had a new release, do you have any new work coming up in 2024? Like writing, recording some new songs or playing more festivals, can you reveal some information to people?

S: 我们目前正在俄罗斯演出，并为2024年秋天在拉丁美洲的首次大型巡演做准备。新歌正在创作中，我们已经开始将它们融入到现场演出中。但至于正式发行，现在还很难计划。2024年肯定不行，也许是2025年，但我们还是不要预测了。拭目以待吧。

We’re currently performing in Russia and gearing up for our first big tour in Latin America in the fall of 2024. New songs are in the works, and we’ve already started incorporating them into our live shows. But as for official releases, it’s challenging to plan anything right now. Definitely not in 2024. Perhaps 2025, but let’s not make predictions. Wait and see.

V: S.C.A.T是一支经典的乐队，我一直是你们的粉丝，我会一直支持和关注你们，我非常期待你们的新作品，也希望这次采访能让更多的人关注和支持你们的乐队，最后想对中国的粉丝们说点什么？

S.C.A.T is a classic band, I've always been a fan of yours, I'll always support and follow you guys, I'm really looking forward to your new work, and I also hope that this interview will bring more people's attention and support to your band, what would you like to say to your Chinese fans at the end of the day?

S: 谢谢你们的赞美，谢谢你们对我们乐队和我们作品的关注。我们很高兴能揭开我们的面纱，邀请你们走进我们这个流浪怪人马戏团的幕后。我们希望这次揭秘能拉近我们与歌迷的距离，包括来自中国的歌迷。老实说尽管我们是邻国，但我们对中国的极端音乐场景并不了解--Grindcore在你们国家有多流行、有多少乐队等等。因此，我们期待着在不久的将来能够访问你们的国家，用我们的音乐取悦中国的Grindcore乐迷。敬请期待！In Grind We Shit!🤘

Thank you for your kind words and for paying attention to our band and our stuff. We’re thrilled to lift the veil and invite you behind the scenes of our wandering circus of freaks. We hope that this revelation brings us even closer to our fans, including those from China. Honestly, despite our neighboring countries, we don’t know much about China’s extreme music scene — how popular grindcore is in your country, how many bands, and so on. So, we look forward to the near future when we can visit your country and delight Chinese grindcore fans with our musick. Stay tune! In Grind We Shit! 🤘