古典的回响 - 匈牙利Atmospheric Black Metal乐队WitcheR专访

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今天我们采访到了来自匈牙利的氛围黑金属乐队WitcheR。WitcheR成立于2010年，并于同年发行了两张Demo，从这两张Demo中我们就能听出WitcheR受古典音乐的影响之大。随后，乐队分别于2015年和2019年发行了两张专辑"Csendes Domb"和"A gyertyák csonkig égnek"。到了2022年的"Lélekharang"之后，乐队风格有所转变，音乐更加旋律化，吉他更加突出，变化更加多样。而在11月份，乐队即将推出第四张专辑"Öröklét"，而我们也邀请到了乐队主创Roland Neubauer来做一次采访。

（V: 代表笔者 R: 代表Roland Neubauer）

Today we interviewed the atmosphere black metal band WitcheR from Hungary. WitcheR was founded in 2010 and released two demos in the same year. From these two demos, we can know WitcheR has been influenced by classical music. Subsequently, the band released two albums, "Csendes Domb" in 2015 and "A gyertyak csonkig egnek" in 2019 respectively. After "Lelekharang" in 2022, the band's style changed. The music became more melodic, the guitar was more prominent, and the variations became more diverse. In November, the band is set to release their fourth album, "Oroklet", and we have also invited the band's creator Roland Neubauer for an interview.

(V: represents author R: represents Roland Neubauer)

采访对象：Roland Neubauer（WitcheR乐队创始人）

采访时间：2025.09.17

V: 你好WitcheR，谢谢你接受这次采访。你们是来自匈牙利的乐队。你能介绍一下你自己吗？你们是什么时候成立的？

Hello WitcheR, thank you for agreeing to this interview. You are a band from Hungary. Could you introduce yourselves? When did you form?

R: 向你以及广大读者致以问候！感谢给予了我们这个机会，我们非常高兴，因为即便你们来自如此遥远的国度，人们仍对我们的音乐感兴趣。WitcheR的故事始于2010年，那时候Karola和我都离开乐队Trollheimen不久。由于我们都非常喜欢像“Summoning”这样充满合成器元素的Black Metal乐队，而且我们俩都不想进行现场演出，所以我们决定一起创作一些东西。就这样，第一首歌曲诞生了，这段旅程也由此开启，而它如今已经成为我们生活的一部分将近 15 年了。

Greetings to you and the readers as well! Thank you for the opportunity, we’re really glad that even from such a distant country there is interest in our music. The story of WitcheR began in 2010, not long after Karola and I left the band Trollheimen. Since we were both huge fans of synthesizer-rich black metal bands like Summoning, and neither of us wanted to perform live, we decided to create something together. That’s how the first songs were born, and how this journey began, which has now been a part of our lives for 15 years.

V: 你的音乐有深沉的音调。吉他并不突出。合成器的加入给音乐带来了一种黑暗和压抑的氛围，让人想起中世纪的古老声音。这是你想要的声音吗？你为什么喜欢这种声音？

Your music has a deep tone. The guitar is not prominent. The addition of the synthesizer gives the music a dark and oppressive atmosphere, reminiscent of ancient sounds from the Middle Ages. Is this the sound you desire? Why do you like this kind of sound?

R: 我认为吉他在WitcheR中十分突出，它在塑造氛围方面起着至关重要的作用。但它确实不像其他乐队那样引人注目。在我们的音乐中，合成器一直是主导元素——从一开始就是如此，未来也会如此。这不是我们有意识地在计划这件事情，它是我们自然而然地东西。这就是我们自己看待自己音乐的方式。

I think the guitar is actually very prominent in WitcheR; it plays an essential role in shaping the atmosphere. But it’s true that it doesn’t stand out as much as in other bands. In our music, the synthesizer has always been the dominant element—this was the case from the beginning, and it will stay this way in the future as well. It’s not something we planned consciously, it simply flows out of us this way. This is how we enjoy hearing our music.

V: 在你2024年的EP"Boszorkányszimfóniák"中，所有的曲目都是你翻唱的古典音乐。虽然他们并不是金属乐，但你用WitcheR的方式诠释了它们。据说你为这个EP计划了大约10年。你为什么想做这张EP？你是如何选择要翻唱的歌曲的？你觉得最后的结果怎么样？

In your 2024 EP Boszorkányszimfóniák, all the music consists of your cover versions of classical pieces. Although these are not originally metal works, you interpreted them in the WitcheR style. It is said that you had planned this EP for about 10 years. Why did you want to make this EP? How did you choose the songs to cover? And what do you think of the final result?

R: 从一开始，我们就萌生了这样一个想法：有一天要制作一张完全由古典音乐改编曲组成的专辑。即便在我们的第一张专辑中，也有一首这样的作品——那就是拉尔夫·沃恩·威廉姆斯的一部合唱作品。后来，我们还收录了柴可夫斯基和贝多芬的作品改编曲。这张EP实际上是一部充满激情的作品，因为WitcheR的音乐本质上就是古典音乐与Black Metal的结合。这在一定程度上要归功于Karola，她是一位受过专业训练的音乐家——不仅她有着卓越的音乐知识，而且对古典音乐也有着深刻的理解。通过她，我意识到Black Metal和古典音乐其实有很多共同之处。在此次EP中，我们挑选了那些能够完美展现这一现象的作品：即通过不同的编排方式，某些古典乐曲能够营造出与Black Metal音乐曲目完全相同的氛围。

From the very beginning, we had flirted with the idea of one day creating a release consisting only of classical music adaptations. Even on our first album, there was such a piece—specifically, one of Ralph Vaughan Williams’ choral works. Later, we also included adaptations of Tchaikovsky and Beethoven. This EP was truly a passion project, since WitcheR’s music is essentially what happens when classical music meets black metal. This is partly thanks to Karola, who is a trained musician—not only does she have an incredible musical knowledge, but she also has a vast understanding of classical music. Through her, I realized how much black metal and classical music actually have in common. For this EP, we selected works that perfectly demonstrate how, with a different arrangement, some classical compositions can carry exactly the same atmosphere as a black metal track.

V: 你打算在2025年发行一张新专辑"Öröklét"。你能给我们介绍一下它吗？你认为它和Lélekharang有什么不同吗？这是在之前作品的基础上的创新还是延续呢？

You are going to release a new album called Öröklét in 2025. Could you introduce it to us? Do you think there are any differences between its music and Lélekharang? Is it an innovation based on previous works or a continuation?

R: Öröklét在音乐和歌词上都是Lélekharang的直接延续。然而，歌曲比以往任何时候都更加复杂，音调更加多样，制作也有提升，卡罗拉的清嗓比以前更加突出。任何喜欢我们音乐的人都不会感到失望的！

Öröklét is the direct continuation of Lélekharang both musically and lyrically. However, the songs are more complex than ever, the tones are more varied, the production has evolved, and Karola’s clean vocals are more prominent than before. Anyone who has enjoyed our work up until now will not be disappointed!

V: 当你在做WitcheR相关的工作时，你觉得什么时候最有成就感？

When you are working on WitcheR-related tasks, when do you feel the most accomplished?

R: 老实说，我很享受这个过程的每一部分。WitcheR给我们布置了日常任务——如果我们不包装唱片，那么我们就要接受采访、拍照、写歌、录音、修改歌曲，或者只是和Karola长时间地谈论如何将事情发展到下一个阶段。所以我真的不能只强调一件事——我喜欢所有的事情。

I honestly enjoy every part of the process. WitcheR gives us daily tasks—if we’re not packaging orders, then we’re answering interviews, taking photos, writing songs, recording, refining, or simply having long discussions with Karola about how we could take things to the next level. So I really can’t highlight just one thing—I enjoy it all.

V: WitcheR的歌词通常是你自己写的诗歌吗？你能给我们介绍一下吗？你的歌词通常包含什么样的内容？你想通过它们传达什么样的情感？你能分享一下你最喜欢的歌词吗？

Are the lyrics of WitcheR usually your own poems? Could you tell us about them? What kind of content do your lyrics usually cover? What emotions do you want to convey through them? Could you share your favorite line from the lyrics?

R: 我们在WitcheR中只使用我们自己的歌词。我花了很多精力来确保每句歌词都有文学价值，都是一首真正的诗——尽管不幸的是，这只是匈牙利语的情况，因为它的意思不能很好地翻译成英语。我们的歌曲大多涉及过去的时代、旧的价值观、对过去的执着、与现代世界的对抗，当然，还有巫术和神秘主义。

We exclusively use our own lyrics in WitcheR. I put a lot of effort into ensuring that each lyric has literary value and is a true poem—though unfortunately this is only really the case in Hungarian, as the meaning doesn’t translate well into English. Our songs mostly deal with bygone eras, old values, clinging to the past, standing against the modern world, and of course, with witchcraft and mysticism.

V: 你的音乐受到了许多其他风格的影响，比如暗潮和古典音乐。我相信你是古典音乐和Black Metal的爱好者。你认为哪些音乐家影响了你的音乐？你能推荐一些你最喜欢的作品吗？

Your music has been influenced by many other styles, such as darkwave and classical music. I believe you are a fan of classical music and black metal. Which musicians do you think have influenced your music? Could you recommend some of your favorite works?

R: 我不确定暗潮音乐是否对我们有影响，因为我不太听那种类型的音乐。但古典音乐无疑对我们产生了影响，不过对Karola的影响更大。至于我，我完全来自金属界。我是在重金属音乐中发现这一流派的，但到目前为止，我已经听了25年多的Black Metal了。我可以不停地列举这些乐队，但大多数人倾向于将我们与Summoning相比较，所以它们确实给我留下了深刻的印记。当年他们的"Minas Morgul"专辑就像"De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas"或"Hvis Lyset Tar Oss"一样让我着迷。

I’m not sure whether darkwave has influenced us at all, since I don’t really listen to that genre. Classical music has definitely had an impact, though more so on Karola. As for me, I come entirely from the metal side. I discovered the genre through heavy metal, but I’ve been devoted to black metal for over 25 years now. I could list influences endlessly, but most people tend to compare us to Summoning, so they surely left a strong mark on me. Back in the day, their Minas Morgul album enchanted me just as much as De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas or Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.

V: 你对WitcheR的未来发展有什么计划吗？你希望发布类似"Boszorkányszimfóniák"的东西吗？

Do you have any plans for the future development of WitcheR? Do you hope to release something similar to Boszorkányszimfóniák?

R: 当然——我们不想总是原地踏步。但同时，对我们来说，即便有所发展，乐队的氛围和真实性也必须保持不变。从根本上说，我们希望逐步前进，不断提升音乐质量和呈现效果。至于"Boszorkányszimfóniák"的后续作品，我们目前还没有相关计划，但我确实有一个类似项目的想法，涉及电影配乐。我们拭目以待它是否会成为现实。当然目前，首要任务是推出新专辑，之后我们希望能每年推出一些新作品。

Of course—we don’t want to remain at the same level. At the same time, it’s very important to us that despite any development, the atmosphere and authenticity of the band remain intact. Essentially, we want to move forward step by step, improving both the music and its presentation. As for a follow-up to Boszorkányszimfóniák, we don’t currently have plans, but I do have an idea for a similar project involving film scores. We’ll see if it ever comes to life. For now, the priority is the new album, and after that, we hope to release something new every year.

V: 在你所有的作品中，有哪一首歌是你最希望人们听到的？或者你觉得哪部作品最接近你心中的WitcheR应该有的样子？

Among all your works, is there any one you most hope people will hear? Or which work do you feel is the closest to the true image of WitcheR in your heart?

R: 这是个很难回答的问题。在新专辑中，我想重点介绍两首歌。一个是"Szélhozó"，它展示了目前为止WitcheR最快和最有活力的一面。另一个是主打歌，Karola干净的声音比以往任何时候都更加突出，我相信这将在未来发挥更大的作用。

That’s a very difficult question. From the new album, I’d highlight two songs. One is Szélhozó, which shows WitcheR’s fastest and most energetic side so far. The other is the title track, where Karola’s clean vocals come to the forefront more than ever before—and I believe this will play an even greater role in the future.

V: 谢谢你同意这次采访。我真的很喜欢你的音乐，也会继续关注你的作品。祝你新专辑发行一切顺利。你还有什么想对大家说的吗？

Thank you for agreeing to this interview. I really enjoy your music and will continue to follow your work. I wish you all the best for the release of your new album. Do you have anything else you would like to say to everyone?

R: 我们感谢你对我们感兴趣，感谢你将我们的音乐传播到遥远的中国。就我个人而言，我是一个非常欣赏中国文化的人，知道那里有人听WitcheR给我们带来了巨大的快乐！如果有人喜欢我们的音乐，请关注我们并帮助转发这篇采访！

We thank you for your interest and for spreading the word about us all the way to distant China. Personally, I am a great admirer of Chinese culture, and it brings us great joy to know that there are people there who listen to WitcheR! If someone enjoys our music, please follow us and help spread the word!