试验品 - 意大利Alternative Rock乐队Dr. Schafausen专访

意大利的老牌重金属乐队Vanexa的贝斯手Sergio Pagnacco在2021年的时候以个人身份组建了新的另类摇滚计划，叫做Dr. Schafausen，以其独特的反乌托邦风格迅速脱颖而出。同年，乐队就发行了首张专辑《Waiting For Tomorrow》，以个人焦虑和恐惧为主题，受到了管饭管住。沉寂四年之后，第二张专辑《Psychiatric Dark Hotel》正式发行，这张专辑在原有基础上融合了更多丰富的元素，层次感更加强烈，声音也更加黑暗和压抑。它将我们带入了一个反乌托邦的精神病院，描述了患者在种种负面情绪下的心境与挣扎。那么本次我们也邀请到了乐队主创Sergio Pagnacco来做一次专访。

（V: 代表笔者 D: 代表Dr. Schafausen）

In 2021, Sergio Pagnacco, the bassist from Italy's heavy metal band Vanexa, launched a fresh alternative rock project under his own name called Dr. Schafausen. It quickly caught fire thanks to its dystopian vibe. That same year, the project dropped its debut album, Waiting For Tomorrow, diving deep into themes of personal anxiety and fear—and it really struck a chord with listeners far and wide. After a four-year hiatus, the second album, Psychiatric Dark Hotel, finally hit the shelves. Building on the foundation of the first, it layers in even more intricate elements, with sharper dynamics and an overall sound that's darker and more oppressive than ever. The record pulls you into a dystopian asylum, painting a raw picture of patients grappling with waves of negative emotions and inner turmoil. So for this episode, we're thrilled to sit down with the mastermind behind it all, Sergio Pagnacco himself, for an in-depth chat.

(V: representing the author D: representing Dr. Schafausen)

采访对象：Dr. Schafausen（Dr. Schafausen乐队创始人）

采访时间：2026.01.20

V: 你好，Dr. Schafausen，感谢您接受本次采访。在我们开始之前，你能简要介绍一下这个项目吗？Dr. Schafausen是什么时候成立的？为什么它被命名为Dr. Schafausen？

Hello Dr. Schafausen, thank you for accepting this interview. Before we start, could you briefly introduce this project? When was Dr. Schafausen founded? And why was it named Dr. Schafausen?

D: 你好，谢谢你邀请我。Dr. Schafausen出生于2020年，是一个另类的自我和创造性的实验室。在金属行业工作了四十多年后，我觉得有必要创造一些不受流派、市场或期望限制的东西。我想要一个项目，在这个项目中，我可以自由地混合metal, electronic music, trap, djent, progressive和电影音效设计，而无需征得许可。Dr. Schafausen这个名字代表了一位虚构的精神病学家，他探索了人类心灵最黑暗的角落。“Schafausen”来自一个听起来很冷的德国名字，意在唤起一种临床的反乌托邦氛围。他不是一个真实的人——他是分析、疯狂和破碎身份的象征。

Hello and thank you for having me. Dr. Schafausen was born in 2020 as an alter-ego and a creative laboratory. After more than forty years in metal, I felt the need to create something that was not limited by genre, market, or expectations. I wanted a project where I could freely mix metal, electronic music, trap, djent, progressive, and cinematic sound design without asking permission. The name Dr. Schafausen represents a fictional psychiatrist who explores the darkest corners of the human mind. “Schafausen” comes from a cold, German-sounding name meant to evoke a clinical, dystopian atmosphere. He is not a real person — he is a symbol of analysis, madness, and fractured identity.

V: 2025年，你刚刚发行了新专辑"Psychiatric Dark Hotel"。那么，你认为这张专辑和你之前的专辑在音乐上有什么不同吗？它有更多的元素还是更好的生产？

In 2025, you have just released your new album "Psychiatric Dark Hotel". So, do you think there are any differences in music between this album and your previous one? Does it have more elements or better production?

D: 是的，"Psychiatric Dark Hotel"与我之前的专辑大不相同。这一次的音乐更具电影感，更具侵略性，也更详细。还有更多层次：管弦乐纹理、声音设计、工业元素、扭曲的电子产品，以及干净的歌声、说唱、尖叫和咆哮之间的极端声音对比。生产也更加先进。我想让听众感觉他们在一栋楼里，而不仅仅是听歌曲。每条轨道都像一个房间，有自己的氛围、偏执和情绪温度。

Yes, Psychiatric Dark Hotel is very different from my previous album. This time the music is more cinematic, more aggressive, and more detailed. There are more layers: orchestral textures, sound design, industrial elements, distorted electronics, and extreme vocal contrasts between clean singing, rap, screams, and growls. The production is also much more advanced. I wanted the listener to feel like they are inside a building, not just listening to songs. Every track is like a room, with its own atmosphere, paranoia, and emotional temperature.

V: "Psychiatric Dark Hotel"是一张概念专辑吗？你能简要介绍一下这张专辑中讲述的故事吗？

Is "Psychiatric Dark Hotel" a concept album? Could you briefly introduce the story told in this album?

D: 是的，"Psychiatric Dark Hotel"是一本完整的概念专辑。故事发生在一家奇怪的酒店里，这家酒店也是一家精神病院。每个房间都有一个不同的病人，每个病人都代表了一种由我们的数字社会创造或放大的现代精神障碍：社交媒体成瘾、自恋、孤独、仇恨、害怕被忽视等等。主角入住酒店时以为自己会痊愈，但慢慢地他意识到酒店并不能治愈任何人……它助长了他们的疯狂。在专辑结束时，听众应该问：我是客人…还是已经是病人了？

Yes, Psychiatric Dark Hotel is a full concept album. The story is set inside a strange hotel that is also a psychiatric hospital. Each room hosts a different patient, and each patient represents a modern mental disorder created or amplified by our digital society: social media addiction, narcissism, loneliness, hatred, fear of being invisible, and more. The main character checks into the hotel thinking he will be cured — but slowly he realizes that the hotel does not heal anyone… it feeds on their madness. By the end of the album, the listener should ask: Am I a guest… or am I already a patient?

V: 你一直在独自创作这张专辑吗？你能谈谈你的创作过程吗？虽然你是一位经验丰富的金属艺术家，但你认为制作这样一张专辑有很大的压力吗？

Have you been working on this album all by yourself? Could you talk about your creative process? Although you are a seasoned metal artist, do you think there was a lot of pressure in making such an album?

D: 我自己创作、安排和制作几乎所有的东西。当然，我与歌手和工程师合作，但愿景和结构来自我。我的创作过程非常直观：我想象场景、人物、房间、灯光和阴影，然后将它们转化为声音。即使在金属行业工作了这么多年，是的，压力也很大。这张专辑是私人的，有风险的。它不遵循潮流。这并不容易。但真正的艺术有时会让人感到不舒服。

I compose, arrange, and produce almost everything myself. Of course I collaborate with vocalists and engineers, but the vision and structure come from me. My creative process is very visual: I imagine scenes, characters, rooms, lights, and shadows, then I translate them into sound. Even after all these years in metal, yes — there was a lot of pressure. This album is personal and risky. It doesn’t follow trends. It isn’t easy. But true art should sometimes make people uncomfortable.

V: 看来你没有参加任何演出。你能谈谈原因吗？

It seems that you haven't participated in any performances. Could you talk about the reason for this?

D: Dr. Schafausen不是一个传统的乐队，而是一个多媒体项目。我不想简单地站在舞台上唱歌。我们正在准备一场幽闭恐怖和混乱的演出，让观众感到被困在精神病黑暗酒店里。这个想法是创造一种由灯光、投影、令人不安的声音、人物和密闭空间组成的沉浸式体验，观众不再只是在观看，而是成为系统内的病人。当我们巡演时，这将不是一场正常的音乐会，而是一场陷入混乱的心理衰退。

Dr. Schafausen is not a traditional band — it is a multimedia project. I don’t want to simply step on a stage and play songs. We are preparing a claustrophobic and chaotic show that will make the audience feel trapped inside the Psychiatric Dark Hotel. The idea is to create an immersive experience made of lights, projections, disturbing sounds, characters, and confined spaces, where the spectator is no longer just watching, but becomes a patient inside the system. When we go on tour, it will not be a normal concert — it will be a psychological descent into chaos.

V: 你能谈谈你平时喜欢听的音乐吗？你认为谁对你的音乐产生了重大影响？

Could you talk about the music you usually enjoy listening to? Who do you think have had a significant influence on your music?

D: 我听很多不同的东西：metal, electronic music, film soundtracks, industrial, hip-hop,和experimental。一些最重要的影响是：Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Bring Me The Horizon, Hans Zimmer, Devin Townsend, Trent Reznor, Architects, ERRA, Periphery, Three Days Grace, Korn, P.O.D., Saliva。我不相信流派界限，只相信情感、紧张和氛围。

I listen to many different things: metal, electronic music, film soundtracks, industrial, hip-hop, and experimental music. Some of the most important influences are: Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Bring Me The Horizon, Hans Zimmer, Devin Townsend, Trent Reznor, Architects, ERRA, Periphery, Three Days Grace, Korn, P.O.D., Saliva. I don’t believe in genre boundaries — only in emotion, tension, and atmosphere.

V: Dr. Schafausen对未来有什么新的计划吗？你认为Dr. Schafausen的下一场音乐会会发生什么样的变化？

Does Dr. Schafausen have any new plans for the future? What kind of changes do you think will occur in Dr. Schafausen's next concerts?

D: Dr. Schafausen还没有完成这家使命有更多的章节，更多的病人，更多的故事。未来的现场表演将包括视觉叙事、演员、屏幕和互动元素——比标准的金属演出更接近反乌托邦戏剧。观众将不仅仅是观看，他们将进入Dr. Schafausen的世界。

Dr. Schafausen is not finished with the hotel. There will be more chapters, more patients, more stories. Future live shows will include visual storytelling, actors, screens, and interactive elements — something closer to dystopian theater than a standard metal gig. The audience will not just watch — they will enter the world of Dr. Schafausen.

V: 再次感谢您接受这次采访。我真的很喜欢你的音乐，希望越来越多的中国人认识沙福森博士。那么，最后你还有什么想对大家说的吗？

Thank you again for accepting this interview. I really enjoy your music and hope that more and more Chinese people will come to know Dr. Schafausen. So, is there anything else you would like to say to everyone at the end?

D: 衷心感谢你。致中国和世界各地的听众：Dr. Schafausen不仅仅是音乐，它是我们正在成为什么的一面镜子。在接下来的几个月里，Dr. Schafausen将前往阿富汗，在一个极端、混乱、后启示录的环境中寻找新的灵感，包括社交和冥想——一个生存、沉默和毁灭共存的地方。这就是我想观察没有过滤器的人类，并将所有这些转化为新的故事和新的声音愿景的地方。如果你在这个数字时代感到迷茫、愤怒、孤独或困惑，在精神病黑暗酒店，你并不孤单。欢迎进来。 🩸

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. To all listeners in China and around the world: Dr. Schafausen is not just music — it is a mirror of what we are becoming. In the coming months, Dr. Schafausen will travel to Afghanistan to search for new inspirations, both social and meditative, in an extreme, chaotic, post-apocalyptic environment — a place where survival, silence, and destruction coexist. That is where I want to observe the human being without filters and transform all of this into new stories and new sonic visions. If you feel lost, angry, lonely, or confused in this digital age, you are not alone in the Psychiatric Dark Hotel. Welcome inside. 🩸

Dr. Schafausen乐队主要作品：

Dr. Schafausen - Psychiatric Dark Hotel（2025）

Dr. Schafausen乐队官方YouTube网站：https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=xHGZl0Zd54GU9Wtq&v=cb3MLX9jiJM&feature=youtu.be

Dr. Schafausen乐队官方YouTube网站：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPo9gSoOe8Y

Dr. Schafausen乐队官方网站：http://www.drschafausen.com/

Dr. Schafausen乐队官方Facebook网站：https://www.facebook.com/Metalveteran