惊世骇俗的病态史 - 捷克Death Metal / Goregrind乐队Pathologist专访

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在90年代的东欧，捷克的Pathologist只用两张专辑，就让全世界乐迷深深记住了他们的声音

没有长篇的作品输出，没有大规模巡演，没有商业包装。仅凭1992、1993两张全长，靠着粗粝、病态又极具重量感的Riff，跳出了Carcass系英式碾核的模板，开创了自己的独特声音，他们的实体专辑被全世界乐迷争相收藏，至今任然抢手，三十年间，这支早已休眠的乐队，从未被遗忘。无数后辈乐队从他们的编配、律动与病态美学里汲取灵感，今天火山杂志联系到了乐队，并进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 M: 代表Martin）

Back in the 1990s Eastern‑Bloc era, Czech band Pathologist made their mark on listeners worldwide with just two albums.No lengthy discography, no large‑scale tours, no commercial packaging.Relying solely on their two full‑length records from 1992 and 1993, with raw, morbid, heavily‑weighted riffs, they stepped outside the blueprint laid down by the Carcass‑influenced British gore‑grind school and forged a sound entirely their own. Their physical releases remain highly sought‑after by collectors across the globe to this day.Thirty years on, this long‑dormant band has never been forgotten. Countless newer acts draw inspiration from their arrangements, rhythmic feel and morbid aesthetic. Today, Volcano Magazine has reached out to the band for an exclusive interview.

(V: Represents the author; M: Represents Martin)

采访对象：Martin（Pathologist乐队歌手）

采访时间：2026.09.15

V: 乐队诞生于1990年，由Fucking Death与Sarkom两支乐队合并组建，当时乐队是在什么样的契机下成立的？为什么选择Pathologist这个名字？可以向读者介绍一下当时捷克的极端金属乐氛围吗？

The band was formed in 1990 through the merger of two groups, Fucking Death and Sarkom. What circumstances led to this formation? Why was the name Pathologist chosen? Could you introduce to our readers what the extreme‑metal atmosphere was like in the Czech Republic at that time?

M: 我得纠正一下：Pathologist乐队其实早在1989年就成立了，当时是一支噪音碾核乐队。这支乐队是我在大学期间组建的，乐队名字是我在翻译Carcass首张专辑的歌词时灵机一动想到的。在此之前，我曾在thrash metal乐队Fucking Death担任鼓手，而Hary和Kÿller当时也有自己的乐队Sarkom。后来Hary和我走到了一起，我们便沿用了Pathologist这个既有的名字继续活动。顺带一提，我们的鼓手Stanley当时也有个叫Respirator的乐队，而我们的初代贝斯手 Alda则有一个叫Brajgl的乐队。由此可见，当时的地下音乐圈确实非常活跃。

I must correct you. Pathologist were actually formed back in 1989 as noisecore band. I founded the band at university and the name just popped into my head whilst I was translating the lyrics from Carcass first album. Before that however I’d been playing drums in the thrash band Fucking Death, whilst Hary and Kÿller had their own band Sarkom. When Hary and I got together later on, we carried on under the already established name Pathologist. Incidentally our drummer Stanley also had band called Respirator, and our original bassist Alda had band called Brajgl. As you can see, the underground scene was really buzzing back then.

V: 乐队的歌曲创作影响了后续无数碾核乐队，在当时你们想创作什么样的碾核音乐？最初是如何确立医学病理为乐队核心主题的？

Your songwriting has influenced countless subsequent grindcore bands. What kind of grindcore were you aiming to create back then, and how did you initially settle on medical‑pathological themes as the band’s core concept?

M: 在那个早期阶段，只有一种风格，即后来被称为碾核的流派。Napalm Death、Terrorizer、O. L. D.、Repulsion和Carcass等乐队是这一流派最早的先驱。其中，来自英国的三人组Carcass对我们的影响尤为深远，因为我们最推崇的就是他们。那种野兽般的狂暴感和极度病态的歌词令我们深深着迷——在当时的乐坛，这些都是前所未有的新鲜事物。

Back in those early days there was only one style, which was beginning to be called grindcore. Among its first pioneers were bands such as Napalm Death, Terrorizer, O. L. D., Repulsion and Carcass. And it was the latter British trio that influenced us the most, because we liked them the best. We were fascinated by the animalistic brutality and the extremely sick lyrics, which were complete novelty on the scene.

V: 回顾乐队早期两张经典作品，1992–1993高密度连续创作两张专辑，当时乐队的创作状态、排练节奏是怎样的？第二张专辑你们的riff区别于Carcass的高速，更有死亡金属riff的听感，当时你们的创作动机是什么？有没有受到哪些乐队的影响？

Looking back on your two classic early releases, you created two full‑length albums in quick succession between 1992 and 1993. What was the band’s creative mindset and rehearsal routine during that period? The riffs on your second album lean more toward an old‑school death‑metal feel rather than the high‑speed style of Carcass. What motivated this creative direction, and which bands influenced you in this regard?

M: 没错，我们的第二张专辑听起来更偏向死亡金属，而不像首张专辑那样带有浓厚的碾核色彩。这主要是因为Hary和Kÿller希望录音效果能更干净、层次更分明一些；而Stanley和我则更倾向于追求极致极端的风格。所以，这张专辑算是我们四位深受金属乐和硬核朋克熏陶的成员之间达成的一种折衷方案。我本人从80年代初就投身于这个圈子，深受数百支风格各异且极具特色的乐队影响，比如Hellhammer、Bathory、Autopsy、Extreme Noise Terror、Wehrmacht、Violent Force等等……

Yes, our second album sounds more like death metal than our debut, which was more grindcore. That was because Hary and Kÿller wanted the sound of the recording to be a bit cleaner and more distinct. Stanley and I, on the other hand, were leaning towards the more extreme end of the spectrum. And this was a sort of compromise between four minds who grew up on metal and hardcore. I’ve been part of this scene since the early eighties myself, so I’ve been influenced by hundreds of different and interesting bands. For example Hellhammer, Bathory, Autopsy, Extreme Noise Terror, Wehrmacht, Violent Force...

V: 你们歌曲中的人声非常病态，当时录制人声的时候你们所采用的是真嗓演唱还是使用了人声效果器？

Your vocal delivery sounds deeply morbid. When you recorded the vocals, did you rely purely on raw vocal performance, or did you use vocal effects?

M: 我一直对人声喉部所能发出的极低音域很感兴趣。我喜欢那种人声所能呈现的极端而粗犷的音色。我没有使用任何录音室特效，而是纯粹靠自己摸索并不断改良了两种不同的喉音技巧。

I’ve always been interested in just how low a range you can get from the human throat. I liked the extreme and brutal sounds that a person can produce. I didn’t use any studio effects, I simply devised and then refined two different guttural techniques.

V: 自1993年"Gluttony of Morbidity"发行之后，乐队便进入了长达数十年的休眠状态，你们只陆续放出旧录音精选，不再录制全新全长专辑。当时是出于什么样的原因而休团？

After releasing Gluttony of Morbidity in 1993, the band entered a decades‑long period of inactivity, only issuing archival compilation records instead of brand‑new full‑length albums. What reasons lay behind this decision to go dormant?

M: 等等，你搞错了。那个头衔跟Pathologist乐队完全没关系。我们当时只是在制作第三张专辑，暂定名为"Extremely Censored!"。遗憾的是，尽管我们当时已经有了很多构思，这张专辑最终却未能问世。当时 Hary 和 Kÿller 开始尝试涉足funky音乐，这张专辑的制作工作也就随之不了了之了…

Hold on, you’ve got that wrong. Pathologist has absolutely nothing to do with that title. We were simply working on our third album entitled “Extremely Censored!”. Unfortunately however it was never released, even though we already had plenty of ideas. At that time though Hary and Kÿller started dabbling in funky music, and work on the album then petered out…

V: 同为90年代病理系Goregrind，外界常将你们与Carcass、General Surgery对标，你们认为自己两张早期专辑，最大的差异化是什么？

Alongside other 1990s pathological‑themed gore‑grind acts such as Carcass and General Surgery, your band is frequently mentioned alongside them. In your opinion, what is the biggest difference that sets your two early albums apart?

M: 谁知道呢，但差异确实存在。Carcass对我们影响深远，对此我们毫不避讳。General Surgery虽然是在我们之后出现的，但当时所有的血腥金属乐队都深受Carcass影响。他们不仅是先行者，也是最出色的。这一点至今毋庸置疑，所有Grindcore乐迷也都毫无保留地认可这一事实。

Who knows, but there are certainly differences. Carcass influenced us immensely and we’re not ashamed of that. General Surgery came along after us, but all the gore bands back then were influenced by Carcass. They were simply the first and at the same time the best. That remains absolutely clear to this day, and all grinders respect this simple fact without reservation.

V: 时隔三十年，依旧有大量极端金属乐迷痴迷这两张老专，甚至奉为Goregrind教科书，你们如何看待这两张老专在碾核圈子的传世地位？

Thirty‑years on, a huge audience of extreme‑metal fans still reveres these two classic records, regarding them as textbooks of gore‑grind. How do you view their legendary status within the grindcore scene?

M: 老实说，我不太理解这一点。当然，我们非常感激，也想向世界各地那些对 Pathologist 始终保持热情的铁杆乐迷们致谢。我们对此深感欣慰，但并不认为这件事应该被过度夸大。毕竟，还有许多同样优秀的乐队。

To be honest, I don’t really get it. Of course we appreciate it immensely and would like to thank all the excellent fanatics from around the world for their unwavering interest in Pathologist. We’re delighted by it, but we don’t think it should be blown out of proportion. After all there were far more bands that were just as good.

V: 可以讲讲你们创作这两张传世专辑过程中的故事吗？

Could you share some behind‑the‑scenes stories from the creation of these two landmark albums?

M: 这两张专辑是在同一间录音室、由同一批录音师录制的。在制作第一张专辑时，我们才刚刚开始摸索录音室创作的各种可能性；当时，制作人不断给予我们指导，并耐心地纠正我们的错误。到了录制第二张专辑时，我们自然积累了更丰富的经验，甚至还得到了制作人的称赞。尽管我们创作的音乐风格相当激进，但录音室里的氛围非常融洽，我们也乐在其中。

Both albums were recorded in the same studio with the same sound engineers. Whilst working on the first album, we were only just getting to grips with the possibilities of studio work. Our producer was constantly advising us and patiently correcting our mistakes. By the time we recorded the second album, we were naturally much more experienced and were even praised by the producer. There was very friendly atmosphere in the studio and we had a lot of fun, even though we were making quite extreme music.

V: 非常不幸得知乐队鼓手Stanislav去世的消息，很多乐迷都非常惊讶与错愕，如果你愿意，可否讲讲他离去的缘由，以及你们九十年代一起做 Pathologist 的往事？

We were very saddened to learn of the passing of your drummer Stanislav. Many fans were shocked and upset by the news. If you are comfortable doing so, could you talk about the circumstances of his passing, as well as your memories of working together in Pathologist during the 1990s?

M: Stanley 离世至今已有三年。他生前饱受长期健康问题的困扰，最终因病不治。然而，他那极具感染力的笑声和震撼人心的鼓点将永远不会消逝。如今，他在另一个世界与自己生前最崇拜的音乐伙伴——Jesse Pintado、Jeff Hanneman、Killjoy和Quorthon——一起快乐地演奏着激烈的乐章。毫无疑问，一场汇聚了已故鼓手们的“鼓乐联奏”早已在那里上演，参与者包括 Cerebral Turbulency乐队的Cichon、Vader乐队的Doc以及Onany Boys乐队的Dick——他们都曾与Pathologist乐队有过交集。Stanley的精神遗产也将通过即将发行的致敬合辑——"Forensically Putrescible Tribute To Pathologist Extremely Fermenting!"与"Macabre And Massacre Salute To Pathologist Disfigured And Horrified!"——而永垂不朽；该合辑由 Bizarre Leprous Production厂牌发行，汇集了来自世界各地的地下乐队。

It’s been three years now since Stanley passed away. He had long-standing health complications, which he eventually succumbed to. His infectious laugh and crushing drumbeats however will never fade away. He’s now happily grinding out in the afterlife with his all-time favourites Jesse Pintado, Jeff Hanneman, Killjoy and Quorthon. No doubt there’s already been a posthumous drumming medley featuring Cichon from Cerebral Turbulency, Doc from Vader and Dick from Onany Boys. These are all deceased drummers who had connection to Pathologist. Stanley’s legacy will also be immortalised for all eternity on the forthcoming tribute album Forensically Putrescible Tribute To Pathologist Extremely Fermenting! Macabre And Massacre Salute To Pathologist Disfigured And Horrified!*, featuring underground bands from across the globe under the Bizarre Leprous Production label.

V: 你们陆续在2017、2023年放出旧素材合辑。还有没有未发行Demo任有保存？未来有没有整理发行计划？

You have put out archival compilation albums in 2017 and 2023. Are there any unreleased demos still preserved, and do you have plans to release them in the future?

M: 完全没有。Pathologist 整个生涯中留存下来的所有录音，都已经以各种不同的格式正式发行了。不过我知道，地下圈子里流传着一些我们演出的业余录音。

Not at all. All surviving recordings from Pathologist’s entire history have already been officially released on wide variety of formats. But I know there are few amateur recordings of our gigs circulating in the underground scene.

V: 如今大批年轻的gore‑grind、老式死亡金属乐手，把Pathologist当成参考范本。你希望后辈乐手从你们的作品中学到什么？

Today, many younger gore‑grind and old‑school death‑metal musicians treat Pathologist as a point of reference. What would you hope the newer generation can learn from your work?

M: 看到年轻乐队依然钟情于那种经典的“腐烂”之声，并尝试效仿我们的风格，这真是太棒了。多年来，我一直密切关注着我们的音乐圈，这让我倍感欣慰。正因为有了这种真诚纯粹的音乐，碾核、血腥金属或死亡金属才绝不会被扫进历史的垃圾堆。

It’s brilliant that younger bands still love that good old rot and try to play in similar style to us. I’ve been keeping a close eye on our scene for many years now, and it gives me great pleasure. Thanks to this genuine and honest grindcore, gore or death metal will never be consigned to the dustbin of history.

V: 时至今日，你们如何看待Pathologist这支乐队，在你漫长音乐生涯中的位置？

Looking back to the present day, where does Pathologist stand within your long musical career?

M: Pathologist 是我们共同创立的，这一点永远不会改变。乐队从未正式解散过。时至今日，所有成员依然是很好的朋友。我与吉他手 Hary 联系最密切，因为除了音乐，我们还有许多共同的爱好。

Pathologist is our joint creation, and that will never change. The band never officially split up. To this day all the members are great friends. I’m in closest contact with the guitarist Hary, because as well as music we share lots of other hobbies.

V: 你们的实体专辑任然被金属收藏者们津津乐道，现在你们的实体专辑依然抢手，你们有什么想对热衷于Pathologist音乐的乐迷说的话吗？

Your physical releases remain highly sought‑after among metal collectors. Is there anything you would like to say to fans who are passionate about Pathologist’s music?

M: 我们想告诉所有的超级粉丝，我们真心感谢大家的支持，对此我们深表感激。我们的录音作品不断以各种版本重新发行，这简直太棒了。

We’d like to tell all our super fans that we really appreciate their support. We’re truly very grateful for it. Our recordings are constantly being re-released in various editions, which is fucking great.

V: 非常荣幸能采访到Pathologist这支传奇乐队！希望通过本次采访能让更多乐迷再次想起病理学家的疯狂声音！在本次采访的最后，你们有什么想对读者说的话吗？

It is a great honour for us to interview the legendary Pathologist. We hope this conversation will remind more listeners of the morbid, ferocious sound of the band. To conclude this interview, do you have any final words for our readers?

M: 对于 Pathologist 而言，得知即便是在中国这样幅员辽阔的国家也有自己的忠实乐迷，真是一件令人无比欣喜的事。我们非常希望能有机会去那里走走，哪怕只是为了领略那丰富多彩的自然风光。在此之前，请大家保重，继续保持那份病态而阴郁的风格！

It’s truly great pleasure for Pathologist to discover that even in vast country like China, they have their own loyal fans. We’d love to visit there sometime in the future, if only to see the beautifully diverse natural landscape. Until then take care everyone and stay sickly macabre!