恕（Forgive）乐队是来自北京的新兴后黑金属，也是我国为数不多的以诗歌为歌词的黑金属乐队。在我们的认知中，这个乐队就是妥妥的“文艺青年”。还有主创程天天发在小红书上的诗歌和骑行日记，加上那一缕飘逸的长发，一看就是女生们对温柔文艺男的顶配。这次为了宣传一下恕乐队，特地把他们拽来做一次采访，顺便帮他们接接演出。
（V: 代表笔者 F: 代表恕（Forgive））
Forgive is a newborn post-black metal band formed in Beijing,and it is one of the few black metal bands in China that uses poetry as lyrics.In our cognition,this band is a literary band absolutely .And Cheng,who is the core member of the band ,posting his poetry and cycling diaries in his social media,with his wisp of long flowing hair,has become the top of the gentle literary man.To advertise Forgive,I make this interview.
(V: for author F: for Forgive)
采访对象：恕（Forgive）（恕（Forgive）乐队全体成员）
采访时间：2024.11.10
V: 是什么时候开始创作歌曲的，是啥原因让你开始创作的？
When did you begin to write songs? And which reason push you to write?
程: 大学时期就有在摸索着写些小歌，大概20年左右开始正式去试着完整的编一首曲子，不过目前都还是一直学习和摸索。原因的话确实是自己情绪比较充沛，容易共情多愁善感（矫情hh，大脑间歇性比较活跃，创作会让我舒缓一些。其次我比较社恐，很少社交，有些想表达的，情绪，和对他人及自然的表达，就通过诗歌和音乐的形式出来了。奶奶的去世和老家山里的变化也是我决定去创作的核心开端。
C: I started to write some simple songs at university.And in about 2020,I tried to write a whole songs formally ,although I was keeping learning and trying at that time .The reason is that I’m rich in emotion,and it’s very easy for me to become empathetic and sentimental.And my brain is active intermittently,so creating will make me peaceful.Besides,I have little social contact.So some emotion that I want to express and the view of others and nature will be emerged by poetry and music.At last,grandma’s death and the changes in my hometown’s mountain are also the core beginning of the decision to create.
米毅（贝斯）：第一次开始创作是在2022年冬天，也是我开始学贝斯的第一年。创作原因是因为练习，发现某几个音以某个方式组合起来特别有感染力，就像解开乡愁一样，在那之后随之而来的就是一种想把这种情感完整保存起来的冲动。
M: The first creation is in the winter of 2022,which is the first year I learned bass.The reason for creation is because of practice.I found that a few notes combined in a certain way are particularly powerful is like unlocking homesickness.Then comes the urge to keep the emotion intact.
小刀（吉他）：2023秋 某个契机？
X: In the fall of autumn ,an opportunity that push me to create
V: 你们的音乐歌词都是诗歌，那你们是什么时候开始喜欢诗歌的，又是什么时候开始写的？
Your music lyrics are poetry,so when do you begin to fall in love with poetry ,and when do you begin to write it?
程：我是在中学时候读三国时候，读到曹操在赤壁前作的观沧海，当时卧槽，文字太伟大了，每一个字都透露着情绪和画面。再之后读到了一些现代诗，包括喜欢很多音乐的歌词都很诗意（很多黑金属歌词都不错）。我觉得诗歌算是最富有情绪，最开放，每个人都可以接触创作的文学形式。而恰好音乐是另一种形式，可以通过声音音符去具象那些情绪和画面，并一直陪在你的耳边。我很多歌的动力，也是从诗歌开始，有时候会并行。
C: I was in middle school when I read The Three Kingdoms, read Cao Cao's View The Sea.At that time, God, the text is too great, every word reveals emotions and pictures.After that ,I read some modern poems,including many black metal lyric which are very poetic.I think poetry is one of the most emotional, open forms of literature that anyone can access.Music is another form, which can be embodied by the sound notes of those emotions and pictures, and always accompany your ears.A lot of my songs start with poetry.
V: 乐队是怎么组起来的？我在高中时期听到了你的个人计划，好像没多久就变成乐队了。
How did the band formed?In high school,I heard your personal project.It seems becoming a band in a short period.
程：大概22年我发起了个单人计划，一专很多歌都是那时候写的。后来想演出了就开始在网上找志趣相投的小伙伴儿。然后很有缘分，我结识了老米（贝斯），当时他和我都住在双桥，都喜欢诗歌，氛围音乐，黑金属，长发，摩托车，人也谦逊，buff加满hhh，同时也有第一任吉他大哥老徐，算是三人组初始成员了。之后又结识了小刀，能力很强也特别有灵气的女孩儿，在音乐喜好上特别相近，性格也比较直爽，于是23年冬天，恕成立了。后来又迎来了可爱性格超好的三（鼓手），和腼腆低调的前卫美男子三水（吉他手）。
C: I started a personal project about 2022.And so many songs in the first album was created at that time.Then ,I want to perform and I begin to find some like-minds guys.And then by fate, I met M(bass).At that time ,he and I are living in TwinBridge and we are all like poetry,atmospheric music,black metal ,long hair,motorbike.At the same time, there is also the first guitar brother Lao Xu, which is the initial member of the band.After that,I met X(guitarist),a girl with a lot of power with a lot of aura.And we are very close in music,and her character are straightforward personality.So in the winter of 2023, Forgive was established. Later we ushered in a lovely character super good S (drummer), and shy low-key avant-garde beautiful man S (guitarist).
V: 有没有什么对你们影响很深的乐队
Are there any bands that have influenced you a lot
程: Nocturnal Depression，Uaral
C: Nocturnal Depression，Uaral
小刀: 必须是Alcest
X: Must be Alcest
V: 近期有什么新歌要发行，风格上会有什么转变吗?
Are there any new songs coming out in the near future, any changes in style?
程：今天刚刚上新一首，这首更偏向抑郁黑一些，情绪层层递进，纯正哭嗓，也试着加了一些黑味足一点的riff。值得一提的是再下一首，一定会是一首非常非常非常特别的歌，动机来自贝斯手老米练琴时候偶然点出的点弦，又可爱又emo又俏皮又让人心疼（提前透露名字大概是我是一只伤心小麻雀，无论是歌词还是编曲都和之前的恕完全不同。
C: Today there is a new song released. this song is more like depression black metal, The emotion advancing layer by layer, but also try to add some riff which is more like black metal.And It’s worth mentioning the next one.It must be a very very very special song ,whose motivation comes from that bass player created it by accident.It was so cute and likeable(The name of this songs is I'm a sad little sparrow ).Both the lyrics and the arrangement are completely different from the previous ones
V: 大家看到关于恕的文章都是比较诗意的，那各位在生活中是什么样子的呢?
The articles you see about Shu are more poetic, then what are you like in life?
程：社畜哈哈，我比较喜欢自然，特别是山和树。经常骑摩托车瞎钻林子（特别爱我的爱车，喜欢逛菜市场买菜做饭，健身，发呆。
C: I don’t like to social contact,and I like nature ,especially the mountains and trees.I often ride a motorcycle to drill the woods (I especially love my car), like to go to the market to buy food to cook, fitness and daze.
V: 近期会不会有什么演出或者活动呢
Are there any shows or events coming up soon
程：就要看给力主办咯哈哈哈，我们随时蓄势待发～再等一个合适的首演机会。
C: Depending on the host, we are ready to go at any time ~ and wait for a suitable first performance opportunity.
小刀（吉他）：目前一直是排练状态 希望有
X: It's been rehearsing so far. I hope we will have time to perform.
恕（Forgive）乐队主要作品：
恕（Forgive）- 也许野林是仁慈的（2024）
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