今天采访到的是来自西班牙的Death Metal乐队Confined，2001年的Confined乐队由Infected Flesh乐队的前贝斯手Karbi和Roger B，鼓手Willy组建，2002 - 2007年期间发行了两张Demo和一张Spilt专辑之后再没有任何新作品发行，直到2023年乐队在美国厂牌Vargheist Records发行了第一张正式专辑“Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones”，如果你是Morbid Angel和Morpheus Descends，刚劲、清晰、紧凑的Old School Technical Death Metal，明显的旋律，甚至与Thrash甚至Groove Metal有几分相似。每首乐曲中都有一些节奏暴力的片段和流畅的吉他演，鼓声虽然尖细，但却清晰有力，能轻易穿过混音，不会抢了风头。吉他的音色朴实无华，没有任何厚重的混响效果，老式的吟唱节奏感很强，与这种风格的硬核起源相吻合，混音台上也几乎没有任何华丽的装饰来增强表现力，乐队的旋律十分复杂，在杂乱无章的半音交错、不规则的节奏华彩和更传统的旋律反问之间起伏，Solo的数量很少，但经常出现的主旋律却能弥补这一不足，这些主旋律往往会拨动节奏吉他，迫使它做出令人不舒服的高难度动作。在前不久杂志联系到了乐队的创始人Roger B进行了一次专访！
（V: 代表笔者 R: 代表Roger B）
Today's interview is with Confined, a Death Metal band from Spain. Formed in 2001 by former Infected Flesh bassists Karbi and Roger B and drummer Willy, Confined released two demos and a Spilt album between 2002 - 2007 and nothing more until 2023, when the band released their first official album “Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones” on the US label Vargheist Records. After releasing two demos and a Spilt album between 2002 and 2007, the band didn't release any new material until 2023, when they released their first official album, “Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones”, on the US label Vargheist Records, which, if you're a member of Morbid Angel and Morpheus Descends, you'll be able to hear. Morpheus Descends, a strong, clear and tight Old School Technical Death Metal, with obvious melodies, even with some resemblance to Thrash and even Groove Metal. There are moments of rhythmic violence and smooth guitar work on each track, and the drums, while tinny, are clear and powerful enough to cut through the mix easily without stealing the show. The guitars are stark and unassuming without any heavy reverb effects, the old-fashioned chants are rhythmically strong, befitting the hardcore origins of the genre, and there's very little flamboyance on the mixing desk to enhance the presentation; the band's melodies are complex, ebbing and flowing between haphazard chromatic interplay, irregular rhythmic wah-wah's, and more traditional melodic refrains, and the Solos are few and far between, but the recurring lead melodies make up for this, and these tend to rattle the rhythm guitar, forcing it to perform uncomfortably difficult maneuvers. Not long ago the magazine contacted the band's founder Roger B for an interview!
(V: for the author R: for Roger B)
采访对象：Roger B（Confined乐队创始人）
采访时间：2025.03.07
V: 你好Roger P我们又见面了，这次我采访的是你所在的另一支乐队Confined，它成立于2001年，是一支历史悠久的乐队，当初是谁发起成立这支乐队的？
Hello Roger P we meet again, this time I'm interviewing you about another band you're in, Confined, which was formed in 2001 and is a band with a long history, who initiated the formation of this band in the first place?
R: 你好，很高兴再次见到你。在我们开始之前，我得说这其实是罗杰-B，而不是罗杰-P。Confined 乐队成立于2001年第一季度。乐队由INFECTED FLESH乐队的两名前成员创建，即前贝斯手Karbi和我本人。我们和Willy聚到了一起，他是我们的好朋友，鼓打得非常好。从这里开始，我们开始排练、创作等。
Hello, nice to meet you again. Before we start, I have to say this is actually Roger B, not Roger P. Confined started by the first quarter of 2001. The band was created by two former members of INFECTED FLESH, this is, former bass player Karbi and myself. We gathered together with Willy, a very good friend of us who was very skilled playing drums. From here, we started rehearsing, writing, etc.
V: 乐队目前只剩下你一个人，其他成员都退出了乐队，其他成员为什么退出乐队？你有没有想过找一些新成员加入乐队？
You're currently the only one left in the band, all the other members have quit the band, why did the other members quit the band? Have you thought about finding some new members to join the band?
R: 这是正确的。如今乐队只剩下我一个人了。说其他人退出乐队并不准确。长话短说2002 年Karbi不得不离开乐队。在此期间Willy和我一直在排练和写作，直到2003年初，Monstre Bu被聘为贝斯手。同年晚些时候，Monstre Bu成为了第二吉他手，Francis接手了贝斯手的工作，主唱Txuma也加入了乐队，我们用这个阵容录制了一些唱片。2005年7月，我不得不搬到另一个地方，因此不得不离开乐队。虽然有一些人顶替了我的位置，但乐队在排练、创作、演出等方面并没有真正取得进展，于是Willy在2006年退出了乐队。乐队又招募了一名新鼓手，但乐队一直不活跃，于是在2007年解散了。我在大流行病期间恢复了乐队的概念。从那以后就再也没有考虑过寻找新成员。
This is correct. I’m the only one left in the band nowadays. It would not be accurate to say the others quit the band. To make a long story short. On 2002 Karbi had to leave the band. During all that period Willy and myself kept rehearsing and writing until the beginning of 2003, when Monstre Bu was recruited as bass player. Later on the same year, Monstre Bu became the second guitarist and Francis took on the bass duties, while the vocalist Txuma was also recruited. We did record some stuff with this line-up. On July of 2005 I had to move to another location, so had to leave the band. Some replacements came in, but the band was not really making its way throughout rehearsals, songwriting, shows, etc. and Willy quit on 2006. A new drummer was recruited, but the band was pretty inactive, so it split up on 2007. I recovered the band concept during the pandemic. Since then, have not considered to find any new members.
V: 乐队中只有你一个人，这当然会让歌曲创作变得更容易，因为你可以完全按照自己的想法来创作歌曲，你能描述一下你的创作过程吗？
You're the only one in the band, which of course makes it easier when it comes to songwriting because you can create the songs exactly the way you want them to be, can you describe your songwriting process?
R: 迄今为止，乐队发行的所有材料都属于过去创作的歌曲。大部分歌曲的创作都是由我自己完成的，当然也有其他人的贡献。自2023年发行第一张全长专辑以来，我又写了一些新歌，一些新的想法也被摆在了桌面上......这个过程可能很容易或者说似乎很容易。但事实并非如此。我确实是一个人在工作。但我往往非常“挑剔”，自我要求很高。这意味着有一天我可能会为一个段落的结构和音色而兴奋不已，但第二天我可能就会丢弃这些素材，因为我可能会觉得它枯燥乏味，我可能会觉得它可以做得更好或者我根本就不喜欢它。因此，我不会说一个人创作会更容易。虽然歌曲确实可以完全按照我的想法来创作，但我缺少和缺乏其他人的贡献。相信我，有很多人都有很好的想法。歌曲创作过程实际上是一个永无止境的头脑风暴和不断试错的过程。其中包含了大量的实验。
All the material of the band released up to date, belong to songs that were written in the past. Most songwriting was done by myself back in the day, but of course, there are contributions from the other guys. Since the releasing of the first full length on 2023, I have written some new tunes, some new ideas are on the table…The process could be, or could seem to be, easy. But it is not. It is true that I work alone. But I tend to be very “picky” and self-demanding. This means that one day I can be really excited on how a passage is built and how it sounds, but the next day I can be discarding this material as maybe I find it dull, I find it could be way better, or I simply dislike it. So, I’d not say that being alone makes songwriting easier. Whilst it’s true that the songs can be exactly the way I want them to be, I’m missing and lacking the contribution of other people. And believe me, there’s people with great ideas out there. The songwriting process is actually a neverending brainstorm and a constant trial and error process. A lot of experimentation is involved in it.
V: 2023年的第一张正式专辑“Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones”比之前的专辑更加出色，当然这与时代变迁有关，因为现在的录音方式与过去不同了。新专辑是在哪个录音室录制的？哪位制作人为你制作了这张专辑？
The first official album of 2023, “Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones”, was even better than the earlier albums, but of course this has to do with the change of time, as the way of recording is not the same as it used to be. In which studio was the new album recorded? Which producer made the album for you?
R: 因为这是迄今为止唯一的一张所以更好，哈哈哈。我想你指的是之前发行的录音、Demo、Spilt CD...所有材料都是我自己在家里的录音室Tentacular Sound录制的。很明显，录音技术在过去几年里的发展令人印象深刻。但同时我的录音过程、知识和经验也引导着我以这样或那样的方式做事。“Eternal Fury…”只由我一个人完成，这给了我很大的关注度和灵活性。我可以随时进入工作室，只要我有空闲时间......就能又快又好地完成工作。后来大流行的时候，我们都被关在家里，哈哈。这让我更加专注。我把所有的布景都准备得非常好，录制过程也非常顺利。
It was better because it’s the only one so far hahaha. I think you refer to the previous recordings released, the demo, the split CD… All the material was recorded by myself in my home studio Tentacular Sound. Obviously, recording technology has impressively evolved during last years. But also, my recording process, knowledge, experience, has led me to do things on one way or another. The fact that “Eternal Fury…” was done only by me, gave me a lot of focus and flexibility. I could enter the studio whenever I wanted, whenever I had a spare minute…and get things done, fast and well. Then, it was the pandemic time, we were CONFINED at home haha. That gave me focus. I had all the set very well prepared and recording was pretty straight forward.
V: 你曾与Vargheist Records和Neuralgia Records合作发行专辑，请问你是如何与这两家唱片公司取得联系并进行合作的？你对这两个厂牌的工作满意吗？
You've released albums with Vargheist Records and Neuralgia Records, how did you get in touch with these two labels to collaborate? Were you satisfied with the work of both labels?
R: 说到Neuralgia Records，我就不浪费时间了。那哥们是个十足的恶棍。不过我还是要说说 Vargheist Records。如果我没记错的话，我应该是在社交媒体上与Vargheist Records的Justin取得了联系。我给他发了一些Demo，他非常喜欢。我向他解释了我的目的，他告诉我他很乐意发行这些材料。我们的合作很快就开始了。Vargheist Records是一家规模不大但正在成长的唱片公司，Justin是个勤奋的人，他精力充沛、积极主动，有正确的心态把事情做好。他全身心地投入到金属乐中，不仅是唱片公司，还有他的乐队。他告诉我“Eternal Fury...”在 Vargheist的听众中反响很好，这对我来说真的很重要。
I won’t waste time speaking of Neuralgia Records. That dude was a real douchebag. I will, however, speak about Vargheist Records. If I’m not wrong, I believe I got in touch with Justin from Vargheist Records on the social media. Sent him some sample stuff and he liked it a lot. I explained him what was my purpose on this and he told me he would be happy to put out that material. We got things rolling pretty fast. Vargheist Records is a small, but growing label, and Justin is a hard-working dude, he has lots of energy and motivation and the right mindset to get things properly done. He’s totally involved in metal, not only with the label, but also with his bands. He told me that “Eternal Fury..” had a great response from Vargheist’s audience, so that is really something to me.
V: 你们的乐队在2007年宣布解散，直到2021年才宣布重组，是什么原因让你们宣布解散，又是什么原因让你们独自重组乐队？
Your band announced a breakup in 2007 and didn't announce a reunion until 2021, what made you announce a breakup and what made you reunite the band all by yourself?
R: 2007年的时候，我并没有真正参与乐队的工作。所以我无法告诉你当时发生了什么。自从2005年离开乐队后，我的内心一直在想：“哥们儿，我们有好歌，却从来没有好好录制并正式发行，真可惜......”。我必须把这种想法发泄出来，于是在2021年，我开始恢复老歌的乐谱和标签。我拿起吉他，重新开始弹奏它们。我与前成员进行了交谈。他们都不愿意再弹了。这意味着，我是唯一一个可以重新开始的原成员。所有这些老歌大部分都是我写的，那么，为什么不排练一下，把所有老歌一次性录制下来，然后再开始考虑由唱片公司发行的可能性呢？于是，就这样做了。
Back on 2007 I was not really involved on what the guys were doing regarding the band. So, can’t really tell you what was going on then. Since I left the band on 2005, I always had that inner thought “dude, we had nice songs, and we never got them properly recorded and officially released, what a shame…”. I had to take that off of my chest, so, on 2021, I started recovering scores and tabs of old songs. I grabbed my guitar and started playing them again. I spoke with former members. They were not up to do it again. That meant I was the only original member up to get the ball rolling again. All those old songs were mostly written by me, then, why not to rehearse and get all the old songs properly recorded at once, and then maybe start checking the possibility to get them released by a record label?? And so, it was done.
V: Chaos, Cosmic是你的音乐主题，你为什么选择这个音乐主题，你想通过这个音乐主题表达什么？你们还创作了歌词部分，这些歌词的灵感来源是什么？
Chaos, Cosmic is your musical theme, why did you choose this musical theme and what do you want to express through this musical theme? You also created the lyrics section, what inspired these lyrics?
R: 我们当时最初的音乐想法，与我们之前的乐队INFECTED FLESH的音乐理念相去甚远。它并不是超级残酷的，我们也不想让它成为一个以血腥为主题的乐队。一些音乐段落重新营造了一种黑暗的氛围，其中的怪异元素很容易让人联想到混沌、宇宙......然后在歌词上，我们也开始挖掘无神论的主题，因为它的元素和主张完全符合我们音乐的氛围和气氛。
The first musical ideas we had back in the day, were far from the musical concept we had in our previous band, INFECTED FLESH. It was not super brutal, we didn’t want it to be a gory-themed band either. Some musical passages re-created a dark atmosphere with bizarre elements that could easily evoke chaos, cosmos…then, lyrically speaking, we also started digging the atheism topic, as it had elements and claims that would perfectly fit the atmosphere and the ambience of our music.
V: 首先祝贺你们在2023年发行了第一张正式专辑“Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones”，你们是目前校园技术死亡金属流派中最具代表性的乐队之一，受到了广泛关注。你们在当前的Old School Technical Death Metal流派中很有代表性，受到了Morbid Angel和Morpheus Descends等乐队的影响，甚至在你们的作品中还加入了一些Thrash和Groove Metal的元素。每首曲目都有节奏激烈的时刻，鼓声虽然尖细，却足够清晰有力，能轻易穿过混音，而不会抢了风头。吉他朴实无华，没有任何厚重的混响效果或阴森的前奏。人声坚持了古老的吟唱式失真，节奏感极强，任何死亡金属老手都能听出其流畅性，这标志着Confined已成为技艺精湛的大师。你对自己的作品有什么看法吗？
First of all, congratulations on the release of your first official album “Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones” in the year 2023, you're one of the most representative bands in the Old School Technical Death Metal genre at the moment, and you've received a lot of attention. You're very representative of the current School Technical Death Metal genre, with influences such as Morbid Angel and Morpheus Descends, and even some elements of Thrash and Groove Metal in your work. There are moments of rhythmic violence in each track, and the drums, while tinny, are clear and powerful enough to cut through the mix easily without stealing the show. The guitars are plain and unassuming, without any thick reverb effects or eerie intros. The vocals stick to the old chanting distortion with a great rhythm and a fluidity that any death metal veteran can hear, marking Confined as seasoned masters of their craft. Do you have any thoughts on your work?
R: 你知道，每个人对自己听到的东西都有自己的描述和看法。你的上述描述与我从不同人那里读到和听到的其他描述相似。老实说当我为CONFINED写歌时，我并没有设定 “必须像这样或那样，必须听起来像MORBID ANGEL或其他什么这样的界限。音乐是我写的，结构是我搭建的。我修改我认为需要重新编排的部分或元素。当我对一切都满意时，那就结束了。如果它听起来像MORBID ANGEL、MORPHEUS DESCENDS等。我真的不在乎。当然我喜欢佛罗里达的Death Mertal，我承认这些经典影响在我创作乐句时发挥了重要作用。但整体效果更多的是我的内心感受，而不是音乐影响。你可能会在不久的将来推出的新歌中注意到这一点。它们更加个人化，也许更黑暗....。在制作方面，我通常都有一个非常明确的想法，即我想在一张唱片中达到什么效果。所以我同意你对鼓的考虑。鼓的演奏方式能很好地承载所有的厚重感和节奏感，同时又不会遮蔽其他乐器。吉他则倾向于重型，有明确的音域，但仍有一定的动态范围，可以让一些和声或其他非传统的吉他部分在混音中很好地体现出来。贝司是一种辅助元素，就像用水泥将打击乐与吉他粘贴在一起。我并不认为乐队或我自己是什么工艺大师。我认为我做的是我喜欢做的事。这些年来我一直在努力变得更好。
You know, everyone had a description and an opinion regarding what they hear. Your above description is similar to others I have read and heard from different people. To be honest, when I write a song for CONFINED I don’t set boundaries like “it has to be like this or like that, it has to sound like MORBID ANGEL or whatsoever”. I write the music; I built the structures. I change the parts or the elements I consider need to be re-formulated. When I’m happy with everything then that’s it. If it sounds MORBID ANGEL, MORPHEUS DESCENDS, etc. I really don’t care. Of course, I love Florida death metal and I admit these classic influences play an important role when I write riffs. But the overall result has more to do with my inner feelings rather than the musical influences. You will probably notice all this in the new songs that will be coming in the near future. They are more personal, perhaps darker….
Production wise, I usually have a very well-defined idea on what I want to achieve on a record. So I agree on your considerations about drums. The drums are put in a way that carry all the heaviness and the tempo very well, without clouding other instruments. Guitars tend to be heavy, with a defined spectre but still with a dynamic range allowing for some harmonies or other unconventional guitar parts to sit well in the mix. The bass is a supportive element, like a cement that is pasting percussion with guitars. I don’t consider the band or myself to be any masters on our craft. I think I do what I love to do. I strive to become better throughout the years.
V: 乐队的Logo设计简洁明了，这个Logo是谁为你设计的？你的专辑艺术品设计的也很漂亮，这些艺术品是谁为你设计的？
The band's logo is plainly designed Who designed this logo for you for you? The artwork is also designed with a lot of character Who designed this artwork for you for you?
R: 带有钉子和眼睛的旧Logo是Karbi设计的。新Logo是我自己设计的。随着CONFINED进入一个新的时代，我们的视角不再聚焦于混乱和进步的结构，而是更多聚焦于黑暗、无神论等。我认为需要一个新的标志。“Eternal Fury…”的艺术作品由Dede Suhita制作。
The old logo with the nails through and eye was made by Karbi. The new logo was made by myself. As CONFINED entered a new era, with a perspective less-focused on chaos and progressive structures and more centered on darkness, atheism, etc. I figured a new logo was needed. The artwork for “Eternal Fury…” was made by Dede Suhita.
V: 你们乐队参加过哪些音乐节，哪些音乐节给你留下了深刻印象，你能描述一下音乐节的氛围吗？
What festivals have you bands been to, what festivals have impressed you and can you describe the atmosphere and are you planning on attending festivals in 2025?
R: 毫无疑问，捷克的Obscene Extreme Festival是我参加过的最变态的音乐节。我曾与CHRIST DENIED、INFECTED FLESH和TIBOSITY一起在那里演出。完全酷毙了。关于CONFINED，目前还没有现场演出的计划。我目前正在与INFECTED FLESH和TIBOSITY准备一些现场演出。所以CONFINED还得再等一段时间。
Obscene Extreme Festival in Czech Republic is without a doubt the sickest festival I ever played and attended. I have played there with CHRIST DENIED, INFECTED FLESH and TIBOSITY. Totally cool. With CONFINED, for now, there are no plans to play live. I’m currently preparing some live appearances with INFECTED FLESH and TIBOSITY. So CONFINED will have to wait for a while.
V: 2025年你的乐队还有哪些新计划？比如创作、录制新歌或者发行新专辑，能透露一些信息吗？
What are some of the other new things you have going on in your band in 2025? Like writing, recording some new songs or releasing a new album, can you reveal some information to people?
R: 我写了一些新歌，有些想法正在酝酿中......肯定会有第二张全长专辑。我只是不知道什么时候会有...
I have some new songs written, some ideas on the pipeline…There will be for sure a second full length. I just can’t tell when…
V: Confined是一支非常经典的老牌乐队，我会一直支持和关注你们乐队，我也希望通过这次采访能有更多的人关注和支持你们乐队，最后你有什么想说的吗？
Confined is a very classic old band, I will always support and pay attention to your band, I also hope that through this interview more people will pay attention to and support your band, finally do you have anything you want to say
R: 我想感谢你们的工作和对极端地下音乐的支持。另外还要感谢那些花时间阅读这篇访谈的人们。保持金属风范！
I’d like to thank you for your work and your support to the extreme underground music. Also, want to thank the people that take a bit of their time to read this interview. Stay metal!
Confined乐队主要作品：
Confined - Eternal Fury of the Disillusioned Ones（2023）
Confined乐队官方Bandcamp网站：https://confineddeathmetal.bandcamp.com/album/eternal-fury-of-the-disillusioned-ones
Confined乐队官方Facebook网站：https://www.facebook.com/confineddeathmetal
Confined乐队官方Instagram网站：https://www.instagram.com/confineddeathmetal/
Confined乐队官方YouTube网站：https://www.youtube.com/@confineddeathmetal
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