流放 - 意大利Technical Death Metal乐队Aydra专访

今天采访到的是来自意大利的老牌Technical Death Metal乐队Aydra，AydrA的职业生涯始于80年代在意大利以Hydra为名的一支Power/Thrash Metal乐队。在90年代初期，乐队转向越来越极端的领域，1996年以AydrA的名义发行了两张Demo和第一张EP专辑“Psycho Pain Control”。随后多年进行了很多现场活动，为几场国家级演出做开场表演，1999年发行第一张正式专辑“Icon of Sin”，这张专辑确立了他们作为Technical/Progressive Death Metal乐队的明确方向。日益增长的人气也为国际乐队（Napalm Death、Avulsed 等）带来了更多的现场演出，2004年乐队终于发行了他们的第二张完整专辑“Hyperlogical Non-Sense”，成为意大利极端金属界的主要参考之一。不幸的是，阵容变动导致2007年乐队长期停摆，但AydrA2013年起再次正式活跃。目前与Rude Awakening Records合作，重新发行他们的完整唱片目录（重新发行和未发表的作品）以及复出专辑。目前乐队的新专辑“Leave to Nowhere”已经录制完毕，发行日期定于2024年10月10日，距离他们上一张录音室专辑发行已有20年。这是一张概念专辑，通过一位移民的眼睛，讲述了他从厄立特里亚到欧洲的绝望旅程。这个概念既来自AydrA乐队成员的想法，也来自他们的个人经历，这张专辑引导听众进行反思并充满了多年高水平音乐才能带来的新能量。在新专辑发行之际杂志也通过Rude Awakening Records厂牌与Aydra乐队的歌手Mauro Pacetti取得联系进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 M: 代表Mauro Pacetti）

Today we are interviewing Aydra, a veteran Technical Death Metal band from Italy. AydrA began their career in the 80s as a Power/Thrash Metal band in Italy under the name Hydra. In the early 90s, the band turned to more and more extreme areas, and in 1996 released two demos and the first EP album "Psycho Pain Control" under the name of AydrA. In the following years, they performed many live activities, opened for several national performances, and released their first official album "Icon of Sin" in 1999. This album established their clear direction as a Technical/Progressive Death Metal band. The growing popularity also brought more live performances for international bands (Napalm Death, Avulsed, etc.), and in 2004 the band finally released their second full album "Hyperlogical Non-Sense", which became one of the main references in the Italian extreme metal scene. Unfortunately, lineup changes led to a long hiatus in 2007, but AydrA has been officially active again since 2013. Currently working with Rude Awakening Records to re-release their complete discography (reissues and unpublished works) as well as a comeback album. The band's new album "Leave to Nowhere" has been recorded and is scheduled for release on October 10, 2024, 20 years after the release of their last studio album. This is a concept album that tells the story of his desperate journey from Eritrea to Europe through the eyes of an immigrant. The concept comes both from the ideas of the members of the AydrA band and from their personal experiences. This album leads the listener to reflect and is full of new energy brought by years of high-level musicianship. On the occasion of the release of the new album, the magazine also contacted Mauro Pacetti, the singer of the band Aydra, through the Rude Awakening Records label for an exclusive interview!

(V: on behalf of the author M: on behalf of Mauro Pacetti)

采访对象：Mauro Pacetti（Aydra乐队歌手）

采访时间：2024.08.26

V: 兄弟你好，很高兴认识你，非常感谢你参加这次采访，我想这是你们乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访，首先我想跟中国的粉丝们问好，Aydra成立于1985年，是一支有40年历史的乐队，当初是谁提议成立这个乐队的？你还记得当时是什么样子的吗？Aydra这个名字是什么意思？你们刚出道的时候，风格被定义为Power/Thrash Metal，但在1993年，你们把名字和风格改成了Technical Death Metal，现在两支乐队都活跃着，两个完全不同的阵容，是什么促使你们改名的？

Hello brother nice to meet you and thank you very much for taking part in this interview, I think this is the first time that your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine, first of all I would like to say hello to the Chinese fans, Aydre was formed in 1985 and is a 40 year old band, who proposed the formation of this band in the first place? Do you remember what it was like back then, and what does the name Aydra mean? When you first started out your style was defined as Power/Thrash Metal, but in 1993 you changed your name and style to Technical Death Metal, and both bands are now active, two completely different lineups, what made you change your name? What made you change your name and style?

M: 非常感谢兄弟给我这个机会。是的，这是我们第一次在中国接受采访，这对我们来说是一个完全未知的领域，但我们对这个机会感到非常兴奋并真诚地希望这是许多新合作的开始。AydrA的故事相当复杂。1985年该乐队名为Hydra，最初的成员都不属于目前的AydrA阵容。1985年至1991年间，Hydra演奏Power/Thrash Metal并发行了三张Demo磁带：“Sons of Rha”、“Near the Graveyard”和“Into the Crypta”。我是通过Demo磁带“Into the Crypta”第一次发现Hydra的并开始关注他们的现场表演。当时我有我的第一个乐队Darkside，我们最终在一个音乐节上一起演奏。我们就是在那里认识的，几个月后他们打电话给我，让我代替他们的贝斯手。我对这个机会感到兴奋，于1991年加入了乐队。大约在同一时间，我们还聘请了 Francesco Olivi担任吉他手。1991年Francesco和我完全被金属乐坛的动态所吸引。Megadeth、Annihilator、Atheist和Death等乐队将金属乐提升到了更高的技术水平，这激励我们改变了乐队的音乐方向。1993年，我们录制了第四张Demo专辑，当时我仍在演奏贝斯和担任伴唱。阵容和流派的这种变化标志着一个新的开始，所以我们决定将乐队的名字从Hydra改为AydrA，我们想与过去和现在截然不同。我相信那是AydrA真正诞生的时刻。随着事情的发展，我们经历了更多的阵容变化，到1996年Hydra的原始成员都已不在乐队中。我们继续前进了10多年，录制专辑并到处演出。然后在2007年，十年后Hydra决定重组。然而当时AydrA 休息了一段时间，原因我稍后会解释，所以当Hydra重组时，AydrA就停了下来。2013年我们又开始与AydrA一起现场演出，我们的第一场音乐会实际上是与Hydra一起举办的。从那时起，这两个乐队完全独立运作，提供不同的流派和音乐，但偶尔我仍然会在现场演出中与他们一起客串。

Thank you so much, brother, for this opportunity. Yes, this is the first time we've been interviewed in China, a completely unexplored territory for us, but we're thrilled about this opportunity and sincerely hope it's the beginning of many new collaborations. The story of AydrA is quite complex. In 1985, the band was called Hydra, and none of the original members are part of the current AydrA lineup. Between 1985 and 1991, Hydra played speed metal/thrash and released three demo tapes: "Sons of Rha," "Near the Graveyard," and "Into the Crypta." I first discovered Hydra through the demo "Into the Crypta" and started following them live. At the time, I had my first band, Darkside, and we ended up playing together at a festival. That's where we met, and a couple of months later, they called me to replace their bassist. Excited by the opportunity, I joined the band in 1991. Around the same time, we also brought in Francesco Olivi as a guitarist. In 1991, Francesco and I were completely captivated by what was happening in the metal scene. Bands like Megadeth, Annihilator, Atheist, and Death were taking metal to a higher technical level, and this inspired us to change the band's musical direction. In 1993, we recorded our fourth demo, where I was still playing bass and doing backing vocals. This change in lineup and genre marked a new beginning for us, so we decided to change the band's name from Hydra to AydrA. We wanted to create a clear break from what had been and what we were becoming.

I believe that was the moment when AydrA truly came into existence. As things progressed, we went through more lineup changes, and by 1996, none of the original Hydra members were still in the band. We continued on our path for over 10 years, recording albums and playing everywhere. Then, in 2007, ten years later, Hydra decided to reform. At that time, however, AydrA took a break for reasons I'll explain later, so when Hydra reformed, AydrA came to a halt. In 2013, we started playing live again with Aydra

V: 你们目前的阵容中只有歌手Mauro Pacetti是乐队的原始成员，其余成员于2013年至2014年加入乐队，你们是如何邀请这些成员加入乐队的？你们对新成员的工作满意吗？

Within your current lineup only singer Mauro Pacetti is an original member, the rest of the members joined the band in 2013 - 2014, how did you invite these members to join the band? Are you satisfied with the work of your new members?

M: 2007 年至 2013 年，由于 Nicola Raffaeli（鼓手）离开乐队，我们突然停了下来。然后，Francesco Olivi（吉他手）收到了澳大利亚的工作邀请，Andrea Mastromarco（贝斯手）决定从事国际志愿工作，前往非洲执行无国界医生组织的任务。2008年我的第一个女儿出生，由于情况变得复杂，我决定离开音乐，全身心投入我作为父亲的新角色。2012年Andrea Mastromarco从任务中回来，打电话给我说他想念AydrA，想让乐队重新聚在一起。我有点怀疑，但我决定跳入这个新的冒险。Francesco还在国外，所以我们邀请Luca Calò（Gunfire）和Giuseppe Cardamone（Duality）加入这个项目。之后我们面试了无数的鼓手，但都没有找到合适的人选，直到Marco Bianchella (Gunfire) 加入乐队。有了这个新阵容，我们准备了音乐会的曲目单并开始再次现场演奏。然而不久之后Andrea Mastromarco又接到了无国界医生组织的电话，不得不再次离开乐队，Andrea Massetti作为临时替代者加入。现在Andrea Mastromarco和Marcello Lammoglia（在“Icon of Sin”时代已经是AydrA的吉他手）一起回到了乐队。所以目前的阵容更接近原来的阵容。

From 2007 to 2013, we had a sudden stop due to Nicola Raffaeli (drums) leaving the band. Then, Francesco Olivi (guitar) received a job offer in Australia, and Andrea Mastromarco (bass) decided to pursue international volunteer work, leaving for missions in Africa with Doctors Without Borders. In 2008, my first daughter was born, and since the situation had become complicated, I decided to step away from music to focus entirely on my new role as a father. In 2012, Andrea Mastromarco returned from his missions, called me, and said he missed AydrA and wanted to bring the band back together. I was a bit skeptical, but I decided to jump into this new adventure. Francesco was still abroad, so we asked Luca Calò (Gunfire) and Giuseppe Cardamone (Duality) to join the project. After that, we auditioned countless drummers, but none of them felt right until Marco Bianchella (Gunfire) joined the band. With this new lineup, we prepared the setlist for concerts and started playing live again. However, shortly after, Andrea Mastromarco received another call from Doctors Without Borders and had to step away from the band again. Andrea Massetti joined as a temporary replacement. Now, Andrea Mastromarco has returned to the band, along with Marcello Lammoglia (who was already AydrA's guitarist during the "Icon of Sin" era). So, the current lineup is closer to the original one.

V: 你们乐队的每一位成员都是创作death metal乐的经验丰富的音乐家，你能告诉我们你们的创作过程吗？新专辑的创作过程顺利吗？我认为你的经验会激励很多年轻的音乐家！

Each member of your band is an experienced musician in writing death metal, what can you tell us about your creative output? Is the writing process for the new album going well? I think your experience will inspire a lot of young musicians!

M: 我们总是花很多时间写歌。一开始我们中的一个人会把一个明确的想法带到排练室，然后重新创作，经常会完全改变。我们经常进行所谓的“智力排练”，在排练中我们会定义想要添加到歌曲中的每一个音符、节奏变化和细微差别。与此同时我开始创作声乐线，然后这首歌的歌词就会受到启发。之后我们进入排练室，努力完美地演奏这首曲子。我们有一个配备录音设备的排练空间，所以我们会录制我们的排练录音，每个人都会听，直到下一场排练。这创造了一种头脑风暴的形式，通常这首曲子会经过一些修改后再回到排练室。这个过程会重复，直到我们找到完全令我们满意的安排。新专辑准备好了；我们已经录制并准备好了一切。我们对最终的结果非常满意，迫不及待地想让大家听到它。它将于10月10日发行，我认为它将具有开创性。

We always spend a lot of time writing our songs. It starts with a defined idea that one of us brings to the rehearsal room, but then it gets reworked and often completely transformed. We often hold what we call "intellectual rehearsals," where we define every single note, tempo change, and nuance we want to add to the song. Meanwhile, I begin working on a vocal line, which then inspires the lyrics of the song. After that, we enter the rehearsal room and try to play the piece flawlessly. We have a rehearsal space equipped for recording, so we make recordings of our sessions that each of us listens to until the next session. This creates a form of brainstorming, and usually, the piece comes back into the rehearsal room with some changes. The process is repeated until we find the arrangement that fully satisfies us. The new album is ready; we've already recorded and prepared everything. We are really pleased with the final result and can't wait for everyone to hear it. It will be released on October 10th, and I think it will be groundbreaking.

V: 你们乐队在2007年就宣布解散，直到2013年才重组，是什么原因导致你们解散，又是什么原因导致你们重组？ 2004年你们第二张专辑《Hyperlogical Non-Sense》发行后很长一段时间都没有发布新作品，这跟你们解散有什么关系吗？还是跟你们解散有关，还是跟你们2016年第二张专辑《Icon of Sin Anthology》发行后很长一段时间都没有发布新作品有关？2016年《Icon of Sin Anthology》发行后，你们直到今年才宣布发行第三张正式专辑？是什么原因导致你们在此期间没有发布新作品？

Your band announced that you were disbanding in 2007, and it wasn't until 2013 that you regrouped, what caused you to disband and what caused you to regroup? Did the fact that you didn't release any new material for a long time after the release of your second album “Hyperlogical Non-Sense” in 2004 have anything to do with your disbandment, or was it related to your disbandment, or the fact that you didn't release any new material for a long time after the release of your second album “Icon of Sin Anthology” in 2016? After the release of “Icon of Sin Anthology” in 2016, you didn't announce the release of your third official album until this year? What kept you from releasing any new material in the meantime?

M: 正如我所提到的，创作过程需要时间和灵感。在2013年与Infernal Poetry在巴尔干半岛巡演后，我们决定专注于作曲，然而其他因素也开始发挥作用。2016年我生了第二个孩子，2018年Marco Bianchella（鼓手）和我创办了一家专门租赁大屏幕的公司，我们仍在努力。这占用了我们大量的时间，进一步减少了创作专辑和歌曲的时间。幸运的是我们与唱片公司没有任何合同或义务，所以我们没有压力，而是选择投入所有必要的时间来开发和完善歌曲。我们的主要目标一直是创作代表我们作曲新里程碑的音乐。如果我们只是为了赶上最后期限而制作一张专辑，那就不值得了。我们希望AydrA成为品质的代名词，我们希望新专辑“Leave to Nowhere”将成为这一类型的新标杆，这绝对是我们最具有前瞻性目标。

As I mentioned, the creative process requires time and inspiration. After our tour with Infernal Poetry in the Balkans in 2013, we decided to focus on composition. However, other factors came into play. In 2016, I had my second child, and in 2018, Marco Bianchella (drums) and I started a company specializing in rental of large screens, which we are still working on. This took up a tremendous amount of our time, further reducing the time available for composing the album and songs. Fortunately, we didn't have any contracts or obligations with labels, so we weren't pressured and chose to dedicate all the time necessary for the songs to develop and be refined. Our primary goal has always been to create music that represents a new compositional milestone for us. If we had made an album just to meet deadlines, it wouldn’t have been worth it. We want AydrA to be synonymous with quality, and we hope that "Leave to Nowhere," the new album, will be a new benchmark for the genre. This is definitely our most forward-thinking goal.

V: 在录音方面你的工作有了很大的进步，你在哪个录音室录制了这张专辑？哪位制作人制作了你的专辑？新专辑的录制过程如何？

Your work is a big step up in terms of recording, what studio did you record the album in? Which producer produced your album? Which studio did you record the new album in and which producer produced the new album for you? How is the recording process going for the new album?

M: 我们与Red House Recording的David Lenci录制了前两张专辑“Psycho Pain Control”和“Icon of Sin”。David看过我们的现场表演，非常喜欢我们并邀请我们在他的录音室录制前两张专辑。后来在“Icon of Sin”大获成功后，Labyrinth的鼓手兼Zenith Studios的老板Frank Andiver提出制作我们的专辑“Hyperlogical Non-Sense”。现在20年后Marco和我都有了自己的录音室。对于新专辑我们在自己的录音室White Rock Studios录制和混音了所有内容，然后由Paolo Ojetti（Infernal Poetry的歌手）在他的Castaway Studios制作了这张专辑。从创意上讲，没有人干涉过我们的创作，包括这张最新专辑，我们自己就是制作人。然而我必须说，与Frank Andiver和David Lenci这样的专业人士合作绝对令人大开眼界

We recorded our first two albums, Psycho Pain Control and Icon of Sin, with David Lenci from Red House Recording. David had seen us live, liked us a lot, and offered us the opportunity to record our first two albums at his studio. Later, after the success of Icon of Sin, Frank Andiver, drummer of Labyrinth and owner of Zenith Studios, offered to produce our album Hyperlogical Non-Sense. Now, 20 years later, both Marco and I have our own recording studios. For the new album, we recorded and mixed everything at our own studios, White Rock Studios, and then the album was mastered by Paolo Ojetti (singer of Infernal Poetry) at his Castaway Studios. Creatively, no one has ever interfered with our compositions, including on this latest album, where we were the producers ourselves. However, I must say that working with professionals like Frank Andiver and David Lenci was definitely enlightening

V: 你们乐队的Logo和专辑封面设计得非常独特，粉丝们很容易就能看出这是你们乐队的封面。谁为你们设计了这些封面？新专辑的封面也可以非常独特，谁为新专辑设计了封面？

Your band's logo and album artwork is so uniquely designed that it's easy for fans to tell it's your band's artwork, who designed all this artwork for you? The artwork for the new album can also be very unique Who designed the artwork for the new album?

M: AydrA的Logo多年来经历了多次变更，由我设计。我喜欢矢量图形并一直致力于这种设计。至于专辑封面，我们与多位艺术家合作，“Psycho Pain Control”的封面是Lorenzo Luzi的画作，他1996年是我的电子学教授。“Icon of Sin”的封面是Eugenio Morganti的雕塑。“Hyperlogical Non-Sense”的艺术作品由当时我的女友Loretta Militano创作。对于新专辑，我们选择了Luca Morici的艺术作品“Delirio”，他是我们地区的一位艺术家，非常有才华，也是一位金属乐爱好者。在他的一次展览中，我被这幅画迷住了，立刻知道它一定是我们新专辑的封面。我买了这幅画，现在自豪地陈列在我的画室里并征求Luca的许可使用它。他很激动，我们更激动。

The AydrA logo, which has undergone several changes over the years, was designed by me. I enjoy working in vector graphics and have always been dedicated to this type of design. As for the album artwork, we have collaborated with various artists. The cover of Psycho Pain Control is a painting by Lorenzo Luzi, who was my electronics professor in 1996. The cover of Icon of Sin is a sculpture by Eugenio Morganti. The artwork for Hyperlogical Non-Sense was created by Loretta Militano, who was my girlfriend at the time. For the new album, we chose the artwork "Delirio" by Luca Morici, an artist from our area who is very talented and also a metal enthusiast. During one of his exhibitions, I was captivated by the painting and immediately knew it had to be the cover for our new album. I bought the painting, which is now proudly displayed in my studio, and asked Luca for permission to use it. He was thrilled, and we were even more so.

V: 你曾与Magik Art Entertainment、X-Treme Rising Records、Square Squid Production、Dawn of Sadness等唱片公司发行过专辑，目前你签约的唱片公司是Rude Awakening Records。Rude Awakening Records不仅发行了你的新专辑，还重新发行了你的 EP专辑“Psycho Pain Control”，你是如何与这些唱片公司取得联系并合作的？你对他们的工作满意吗？

You have released albums with Magik Art Entertainment, X-Treme Rising Records, Square Squid Production, Dawn of Sadness and your current signing to Rude Awakening Records, Rude Rude Awakening Records not only released your new album but also re-released your EP “Psycho Pain Control”, how did you get in touch with these labels to collaborate? Are you satisfied with their work?

M: 多年来，许多人帮助我们成长为一个乐队并传播了我们的名字。我们仍然与这些人保持联系，与他们分享我们的成功和挑战。Alex De Socchieri、David Lenci和Frank Andiver是我们故事的一部分，就像AydrA的成员一样。目前我们正在与Rude Awakening Records的 Gabriele合作，我们非常满意。Gabriele有清晰的想法，是一个非常积极主动的人。我们每天沟通，讨论提案、促销想法等。我们需要像他这样的人：务实而热情，真正理解AydrA的本质。AydrA不是一个商业项目，而是一个旨在创作尽可能独特和开创性的音乐的项目。正如我之前提到的，我们的主要目标是有时间在没有压力或限制的情况下创作。AydrA是我们创造力的表达，合作需要我们深深沉浸在我们的音乐中。Alex、Frank、David和现在的Gabriele首先是我们的粉丝。他们来到这里了解我们所做的一切，现在已成为我们故事的一部分。他们与我们有着共同的目标，那就是尽可能多地传播我们的音乐，这正是我们所寻求的。

Over the years, many people have helped us grow as a band and spread our name. We are still in touch with these people and share both our successes and our challenges with them. Alex De Socchieri, David Lenci, and Frank Andiver are as much a part of our story as the members of AydrA. Currently, we are working with Gabriele from Rude Awakening Records, and we are extremely satisfied. Gabriele has clear ideas and is a very proactive person. We communicate daily to discuss proposals, promotional ideas, and more. We needed someone

like him: pragmatic and passionate, who truly understands the essence of AydrA. AydrA is not a commercial project but one that aims to create music that is as unique and groundbreaking as possible. As I mentioned earlier, our main goal is to have the time to compose without pressure or constraints. AydrA is the expression of our creativity, and working together requires being deeply immersed in our music. Alex, Frank, David, and now Gabriele are, first and foremost, our fans. They came in, understood what we do, and are now part of our story. They share our goal of spreading our music as much as possible, and that is exactly what we are looking for.

V: 你的音乐主题是什么？为什么选择这样的音乐主题，你想通过这样的音乐主题表达什么？你还创建了歌词部分，这些歌词是谁写的，他的灵感是什么？

What is the theme of your music about? Why did you choose such a musical theme and what do you want to express through such a musical theme? You also created a lyrics section, who wrote these lyrics and what was his inspiration?

M: 新专辑“Leave to Nowhere”探讨了欧洲移民的主题，描述了一位非洲移民的旅程，他面对着非人的困难，试图前往欧洲寻求更好的生活，但结果往往只是一种幻想。歌词是我写的，但灵感主要来自于听Andrea Mastromarco的故事，他曾在这些地区与无国界医生组织合作多年。不幸的是在欧洲，尤其是在意大利，移民流动往往被非人化。在我看来这里的人们已经失去了理智，怜悯和利他主义常常被不信任的态度所取代，而这种态度往往会导致彻头彻尾的种族主义行为。我们显然反对这种思维方式。对我来说国家边界只是地图上画的线：我们都是同一个星球的一部分，有责任互相帮助，帮助那些逃离无法忍受的处境的人。令人振奋的是，在金属乐中，这些障碍根本不存在。无论性别、种族、宗教或国籍如何，如果你热爱金属乐，你永远都是我的兄弟。其他一切也应该如此。

The new album, Leave to Nowhere, explores the theme of immigration in Europe and depicts the journey of a migrant from Africa who faces inhumane difficulties in an attempt to

reach Europe in search of a better life, which often turns out to be merely an illusion. The lyrics were written by me, but the inspiration came largely from listening to the stories of Andrea Mastromarco, who spent years working with Doctors Without Borders in those regions. Unfortunately, in Europe, and especially in Italy, migration flows are often dehumanized. It seems to me that people here have lost their minds, with pity and altruism frequently replaced by distrustful attitudes that often lead to outright racist behavior. We are obviously against this way of thinking. For me, national borders are just lines drawn on a map: we are all part of the same planet and have a duty to help each other and assist those fleeing unbearable situations. It’s uplifting to see how, in metal, these barriers simply don’t exist. Regardless of gender, race, religion, or country of origin, if you love metal, you are always and forever my brother. It should be this way for everything else as well.

V: 首先恭喜你今年最新专辑的发行，多年后我才听过你1999年的专辑“Icon of Sin”，绝对是里程碑，你创造了自己的风格，你的技术掌握，编曲精妙复杂，你有很多东西可以提供，你对自己的作品非常自豪。你的技术掌握，精妙复杂的编曲，像进入迷宫一样，其中的一些前卫元素使你的作品更具旋律性，你的作品也受到了Thrash metal的影响，这让你的作品更加Old School和更快，总而言之你的作品是一部非常经典和令人难忘的作品。你觉得你的作品怎么样？新专辑与旧专辑有什么不同吗？

First of all, congratulations on the release of your latest album this year, after many years, I have heard your 1999 album “Icon of Sin”, it is an absolute milestone, you have created your own style, your technical mastery, the arrangements are subtle and complex, you have a lot to offer, and you are very proud of your work. Your technical mastery, delicate and complex arrangements, like entering a labyrinth, and some progressive elements in it make your work more melodic, and your work is also influenced by Thrash metal, which makes your work more Old School and faster, all in all, your work is a very classic and unforgettable work. What do you think of your work? Has the new album changed from the old one?

M: “Icon of Sin”是一张令人难以置信的专辑，它奠定了我们作曲的基础和个人“规则”。正如我之前提到的，我们非常注重细节。当你第一次听我们的专辑时，很难找到我们包含的所有微妙元素。它们不是商业专辑，而是复杂的作品，每次听都能发现一个新的“复活节彩蛋”。编曲、复杂的结构、几乎察觉不到的节奏变化以及所有细微差别都经过精心制作。我们的目标是用我们的专辑给人惊喜，让每一次聆听都让人惊叹。让我高兴的是，即使25年后，“Icon of Sin”听起来仍然新鲜而时尚。新专辑也是如此我们按照与之前作品相同的指导方针创作和编曲。

Icon of Sin was an incredible album that set the foundations and our personal "rules" of composition. As I mentioned earlier, we are very attentive to details. When you listen to one of our albums for the first time, it’s not easy to find all the subtle elements we’ve included. They are not commercial albums, but rather complex compositions where each new listen can reveal a new "easter egg." The arrangements, the intricate structures, the barely noticeable changes in tempo, and all the nuances have been carefully crafted. We aim to surprise with our albums and to amaze with every listen. What pleases me is that, even 25 years later, Icon of Sin still sounds fresh and current. The same will be true for the new album, which we composed and arranged following the same guidelines as our previous works.

V: 除了发行新专辑之外，你们乐队还在进行哪些新尝试？能透露一些信息给观众吗？

What are some of the new endeavors your band is working on in addition to the release of the new album? Can you reveal some information to the crowd?

M: 是的，当然。我们正在与Gory Blister组织一次迷你巡演，从12月13日开始，那天是Chuck Schuldiner逝世周年纪念日，他对我们的音乐产生了巨大影响。在这次巡演期间，我们还将发行一张与Gory Blister合作的CD。此外还将印刷一份Best Of AydrA合辑并收录在南美的许多印刷杂志中。我们一直在寻找国际合作，所以请联系我们。我们非常高兴能与亚洲唱片公司、电台和杂志合作，传播我们的音乐。你可以通过我们的社交媒体直接联系我们，甚至只是聊聊金属乐。对我们来说，我们是一个大家庭

Yes, certainly. We are organizing a mini tour with Gory Blister, starting on December 13,

the anniversary of Chuck Schuldiner’s death, a figure who has had a tremendous impact on

our music. During this tour, we will also release a split CD with Gory Blister.

Additionally, a Best Of AydrA compilation will be printed and included with many print

magazines in South America. We are always looking for international collaborations, so

please reach out. It would be a huge pleasure for us to work with Asian labels, radio stations,

and zines to spread our music. You can contact us directly through our social media, even

just to chat about metal. To us, we’re one big family

V: 你们参加过很多音乐节，哪些音乐节给你们留下了深刻印象，能描述一下当时的氛围吗？随着2024年新专辑的发行，我认为会有很多音乐节的邀请，你们会去参加哪些音乐节？

You guys have played a lot of festivals, which ones have impressed you, can you describe the atmosphere and with the release of your new album in 2024, I think there will be a lot of invitations to festivals, which ones are you going to play?

M: 过去，我们参加过各种音乐节，有机会结识其他音乐家并在个人层面上与乐队建立联系。我个人很喜欢音乐节的环境；这是一个让你真正感受到团结就是力量的地方。2025年我们希望参加许多音乐节，但现在我还不能透露任何消息，因为我们还有一些邀请正在筹备中。所以请继续关注，让我们看看未来会怎样。

In the past, we’ve played at various festivals and had the chance to meet other musicians and connect with bands on a personal level. I personally love the festival environment; it's a place where you truly feel that unity makes strength. In 2025, we hope to participate in numerous festivals, but I can't reveal anything just yet as we have some offers that are still in the works. So, stay tuned and let’s see what the future holds.

V: Aydra是意大利最经典、历史最悠久的乐队之一，你们为所有粉丝奉献了很多经典歌曲，我会一直支持和关注你们的乐队，也希望通过这次采访能让更多中国粉丝关注你们的乐队，在采访结束时你有什么想对中国粉丝说的吗？

Aydra is one of the most classic and historical bands in Italy, you guys have dedicated a lot of classic songs to all your fans, I will always support and follow your band, and I also hope that through this interview I can make more Chinese fans pay attention to your band, do you have anything you want to say to your Chinese fans at the end of this interview?

M: 是的，首先，我要对这次机会表示衷心的感谢。对于关注我们乐队的所有人，我邀请你们将我们的音乐传播到世界各地！在社交媒体上关注我们，给我们写信，让我们更好地了解彼此。我喜欢与来自世界各地的金属乐迷交谈，分享音乐品味和对乐队和音乐的看法。不要犹豫，联系我们吧；我们一定会回复。我还想呼吁任何想以更具体的方式与我们合作的人：联系我们！我们始终对任何类型的合作持开放态度，只要它是认真和专业的。经销商、唱片公司、杂志、电台以及任何有兴趣推广我们音乐的人都非常欢迎。不要犹豫，与我们联系吧！

Yes, first of all, I want to express my sincere thanks for this opportunity. To everyone who follows our band, I invite you to spread our music everywhere! Follow us on social media, write to us, and let's get to know each other better. I love talking with metalheads from around the world and sharing musical tastes and opinions about bands and music. Don’t hesitate to reach out; we will definitely reply. I also want to make a call to anyone who wants to collaborate with us in a more concrete way: contact us! We are always open to any type of collaboration, as long as it is done seriously and professionally. Distributors, labels, zines, radio stations, and anyone interested in promoting our music are more than welcome. Don’t hesitate to get in touch with us!