大屠杀纪念日 - 葡萄牙Death Metal乐队Carnificina专访

今天采访到的是来自葡萄牙的Death Metal乐队Carnificina，组建于1995年的Carnificina乐队由Ve-R-ee Ax，Melkor，D-Void，The Beyonder四名成员组建，在经过长时间的创作之后乐队在2011年发行了第一张EP专辑“Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia”这张专辑深受Old School Death Metal风格的影响，整齐，凶狠的Riff，快速，精准的鼓点，凶狠的演唱，让这张专辑受到了很多歌迷的关注和好评，虽然这张专辑在录音方面有一些缺陷，但是乐队的创始人之一Melkor重新录制了这张专辑，让这张专辑重新获得了新的活力，在前不久杂志与乐队的创始人Melkor取得联系进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 M: 代表Melkor）

Today's interview is with Carnificina, a Portuguese Death Metal band formed in 1995 by Ve-R-ee Ax, Melkor, D-Void, and The Beyonder. After a long period of creative work, the band released their first EP in 2011. The album “Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia” was heavily influenced by the Old School Death Metal style, with neat, vicious riffs, fast, precise drums, and ferocious vocals, which made the album received a lot of attention and critical acclaim from fans. Although there were some flaws in the recording of the album, Melkor, one of the founders of the band, re-recorded the album and gave it a new lease of life. Not long ago, the magazine contacted Melkor for an interview!

(V: for the author M: for Melkor)

采访对象：Melkor（Carnificina乐队鼓 / 吉他手）

采访时间：2025.04.17

V: 你好Melkor很高兴再次见到你，这次我要采访的是你所在的Carnificina乐队，这支乐队成立于1995年，是一支历史悠久的老牌乐队，你当初是如何加入这支乐队的？

Hello Melkor nice to see you again, this time I'm going to interview the band Carnificina which you are involved in, this band was formed in 1995 and it's an old band with a long history, how did you get involved in this band in the first place?

M: 很高兴再次来到这里。事实上Carnificina是我一切开始的地方--那是我的第一支乐队。1995 年当我被邀请组建这支乐队时，我只弹了几个月的吉他。我们当时年轻、原始，只想制造噪音，激进、肮脏、暴力的噪音。乐队维持了大约一年，之后大家就各奔东西了。多年后我开始回想那些往事，那些精神，那些混乱，我决定把其中的一部分带回来。我收集了一些我还记得的旋律，重新编写和编排了我能做的并将其制作成了EP“Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia”。由于我不知道原来的歌词是什么，所以我们为这个录音室版本创作了全新的歌词，荒诞、讽刺、怪诞，深深植根于葡萄牙的地下文化。这一次它并不是一个传统意义上的乐队，更像是一个由新阵容组成的录音室复活版，只是为了将这段扭曲的历史记录下来。这是一种带有黑色幽默的暴力怀旧。

Hey! Great to be here again. Carnificina is actually where everything started for me - it was my very first band. I had only been playing guitar for a few months when I was invited to start this band back in 1995. We were young, raw, and just wanted to make noise, aggressive, dirty, violent noise. The band lasted around a year, and after that, everyone went their separate ways. Years later, I started thinking about those old days, the spirit, the chaos, and I decided to bring some of it back. I gathered the few riffs I still remembered, rewrote and rearranged what I could, and turned it into the EP Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia. Since I had no idea what the original lyrics were, we created completely new ones for this studio version, absurd, sarcastic, grotesque, and deeply rooted in Portuguese underground culture. This time, it’s not really a band in the traditional sense, it’s more of a studio resurrection with a new lineup, just for the sake of putting this twisted piece of history into recorded form. It’s violent nostalgia with a healthy dose of black humor.

V: 乐队由你、The Beyonder、D-Void和Ve-R-ee Ax组成，你们都是第一代成员，彼此非常熟悉，知道对方需要什么来创作，能描述一下你们的创作过程吗？

The band was formed by you, The Beyonder, D-Void, Ve-R-ee Ax, you're all first generation members and know each other well enough to know what each other needed to create, can you describe your creative process?

M: 不完全是，最初的Carnificina其实是由Bruno, Rute和Ginjas在1995年组建的。我在刚开始弹吉他的时候就加入了乐队，我们就这样任由疯狂流淌。最初的乐队并没有维持多久，但却给我留下了深刻的印象。转眼几十年过去了，我决定是时候唤醒Carnificina的尸体，让它发出最后的尖叫。为了这次复活，我为这张EP的录音室版本精心挑选了一个杀手级阵容。我录制了所有的节奏吉他并亲自编写了鼓的程序，以保持原始的精髓。然后我联系了Ve-R-ee Ax，他制作了一些污秽、扭曲的贝斯，给歌曲带来了所需的冲击力。基础稳固后，我联系了Beyonder--一个文字野兽，他负责了所有的歌词和唱词。他为歌曲带来了残酷与讽刺的完美平衡。最重要的是，华丽的D-Void为我们带来了劲爆的独奏。他的风格为我们增添了一层混乱和精确，这正是我想要的。整个过程是快速的、本能的、完全不加过滤的，就像Carnificina应该有的样子。每个人都拿出了自己最好的状态，我们没有想太多。这不是完美的问题，而是态度的问题，这张EP就充满了这种态度。

Not exactly, the original Carnificina was actually formed back in 1995 by Bruno, Rute, and Ginjas. I joined in the very early days when I had barely started playing guitar, and we just let the madness flow. That first version of the band didn’t last long, but it left its mark on me. Fast forward a couple of decades, and I decided it was time to exhume the corpse of Carnificina and give it one final scream. For this resurrection, I handpicked a killer lineup for the studio version of the EP. I recorded all the rhythm guitars and programmed the drums myself to keep the raw essence alive. Then I reached out to Ve-R-ee Ax, who laid down some filthy, distorted basslines that gave the songs the gut-punch they needed. Once the foundations were solid, I contacted Beyonder - a beast with words, and he took care of all the lyrics and vocals. He brought a perfect balance of brutality and sarcasm to the tracks. And to top it all off, the magnificent D-Void came in with those blistering solos. His style added a layer of chaos and precision that was exactly what I wanted. The process was fast, instinctive, and totally unfiltered, just like Carnificina should be. Everyone brought their best, and we didn’t overthink it. It’s not about perfection, it’s about attitude, and this EP reeks of it.

V: 这张专辑的原版于2011年发行，当时录制的版本并不完美，但你们在2024年重新录制了这张专辑，新版本的录制效果很棒，能介绍一下重新录制专辑的过程吗？

The original version of the album was released in 2011 and the recorded version wasn't perfect at the time, but you re-recorded the album in 2024 and the new version is a great recording, can you describe the process of re-recording the album?

M: 是的，最初的版本是2011年推出的，虽然精神是存在的，但声音却不是。当时我并没有足够的知识或工具来让吉他或整体混音达到我想要的效果。这一直困扰着我，尤其是因为这些歌曲应该得到更多。因此在2024年，我决定是时候让Carnificina得到公正的对待了。过程非常简单： 我保留了原有的结构和其他成员的表演，但重新录制了所有的节奏吉他，让它们拥有缺失的厚重感和咬合力。我还修改了鼓声，更新了均衡器和贝斯与人声的混音，让一切都焕然一新。我们的基础很扎实，已经有了一张极具杀伤力的EP，但呈现出来的效果并不理想。我终于掌握了修复它的技巧，我不想让这张唱片因为糟糕的制作而默默无闻。现在，它听起来就像它本该有的样子：原始、厚重、刻薄。

Yeah, the original version came out in 2011, and while the spirit was there, the sound wasn’t. Back then, I didn’t really have the knowledge or the tools to get the guitars or the overall mix sounding the way I wanted. It always bothered me, especially because the songs deserved so much more. So in 2024, I decided it was time to do Carnificina justice. The process was pretty straightforward: I kept the original structure and performances from the other members, but I re-recorded all the rhythm guitars from scratch to give them the heaviness and bite they were missing. I also revamped the drum sounds, updated the EQ and mix on the bass and vocals, and just gave everything a proper sonic facelift. The foundations were solid, we already had a killer EP, but the presentation wasn’t right. I finally had the skills to fix it, and I didn’t want this release to fade into obscurity because of poor production. Now, it sounds the way it always should’ve: raw, heavy, and mean.

V: 你们乐队的Logo设计精美，是谁为你们设计的这个Logo？你们的专辑封面设计简单，但非常符合Death Metal的风格，是谁为你们设计的这个Logo？

Your band's logo is beautifully designed, who designed this logo for you, and your album artwork is simple, but very much in line with the death metal genre, who designed this logo for you?

M: Carnificina Logo的设计者正是Logo之王Christophe Szpajdel。在通过线条和形状捕捉乐队精髓方面，他是一位真正的大师。当我找到他时，我解释说这是一个可以追溯到90年代的Old School Death Metal项目，他立刻就理解了我的想法。他所提供的正是乐队所需要的：原始、尖锐、直奔主题，就像我们的音乐一样。至于美术设计，我有意保持简约。我不希望有任何过于精致的东西，只希望能传达出老派的气息，反映出音乐中原始、激进的精神。这一切都要忠实于地下Death Metal的美学，我认为Logo和封面都能完美地体现这一点。

The Carnificina logo was designed by none other than Christophe Szpajdel - The Lord of the Logos. He’s a true master when it comes to capturing the essence of a band just through lines and shapes. When I approached him, I explained that this was an old-school death metal project with roots going back to the '90s, and he immediately understood the vision. What he delivered was exactly what the band needed: raw, sharp, and straight to the point, like our music. As for the artwork, I kept it intentionally minimalistic. I didn’t want anything overly elaborate, just something that channels the old-school vibe and reflects the primitive, aggressive spirit of the music. It’s all about staying true to that underground death metal aesthetic, and I think both the logo and the cover work together perfectly to represent that.

V: 你们乐队的音乐主题是什么，为什么选择这个主题，想通过它表达什么？歌词部分也是你们创作的，这些歌词是谁写的，灵感来源是什么？

What is your band's music theme about, why did you choose it, and what do you want to express through it? You also created the lyrics section, who wrote these lyrics and what was his inspiration?

M: Carnificina将Death和Thrash Metal原始地融合在一起，没有噱头，没有修饰，只有纯粹的侵略性。音乐快速、暴力、未经过滤，因此主题也必须与这种能量相匹配。我们探索残酷、犯罪和现实的阴暗角落。这不仅仅是为了震撼，而是为了直面真实、丑陋和经常被忽视的东西。歌词完全由Beyonder创作。他的灵感来自现实生活，来自我们身边扭曲的现实。其中两首曲子，即开头和结尾，是调侃、嘲讽和纯粹的混乱，但其他曲子则严肃得多。它们取材于发生在葡萄牙的真实案件，这些案件都留下了深深的伤痕。贝扬德潜心研究这些故事，并以残酷的抒情方式将其还原。正是这种讽刺与恐怖之间的对比，赋予了这张EP独特的基调。

Carnificina delivers a raw blend of death and thrash metal, no gimmicks, no polish, just pure aggression. The music is fast, violent, and unfiltered, so the themes had to match that energy. We explore brutality, crime, and the darker corners of reality. It’s not just about shock value, it’s about confronting what’s real, ugly, and often ignored. The lyrics were written entirely by The Beyonder. His inspiration came from real life, from the twisted reality around us. Two of the tracks, the opener and the closer, are tongue-in-cheek, complete mockery and pure chaos, but the others are far more serious. They’re based on real crimes that happened in Portugal, actual cases that left deep scars. Beyonder dove into those stories and brought them back with a brutal lyrical edge. It’s that contrast, between satire and horror, that gives this EP its unique tone.

V: 你们2011年的原版专辑曾在Supergoat Wreck-Hordes唱片公司发行过CD版，但该公司已宣布倒闭，能否向我们介绍一下该公司？新版专辑是在你们的厂牌发行还是以数字形式发行？

Your original 2011 album was released on CD on the label Supergoat Wreck-Hordes, but the label announced its closure, can you tell us a bit about the label? Was the new version of the album released on your label or digitally?

M: 遗憾的是，尽管早在2011年就有计划，Carnificina的EP原始版本却从未发行过CD。不过我自己的虚拟厂牌Supergoat Wreck-Hordes 是我首次以数字形式发行这张专辑的平台，而且一直活跃至今。与一些传言相反，我从未正式关闭过它。它一直在那里，默默地保存着我多年来发布的所有音乐作品。2024年新版的重新录制也是通过Supergoat Wreck-Hordes发行的，忠于同样的地下精神。这个厂牌更像是我参与的所有乐队和项目的数字中心。它给了我充分的创作自由，让我想什么时候发行就什么时候发行，不需要等待批准，也不需要应付官僚主义。这是一个出于激情而非盈利的DIY平台，而这正是Carnificina所代表的。

Unfortunately, the original version of the Carnificina EP was never released on CD, despite the plans back in 2011. However, Supergoat Wreck-Hordes, my own virtual label, was the platform where I first published it digitally, and it has remained active ever since. Contrary to some rumours, I never officially shut it down. It’s always been there, silently holding all my musical releases over the years. The new 2024 re-recording was also released through Supergoat Wreck-Hordes, staying loyal to the same underground spirit. The label exists more as a digital hub for all the bands and projects I’m involved in. It gives me full creative freedom to publish whenever I want, however I want, without needing to wait for approval or deal with bureaucracy. It’s a DIY platform built out of passion, not profit, and that’s exactly what Carnificina represents.

V: 专辑“Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia”深受Old School Death Metal风格的影响，有很棒的旋律、很好的编曲，每个细节都很出色，你对这张专辑有什么看法？

The album “Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia” is very much influenced by the old school death metal style, with great riffs, excellent arrangements and every detail is excellent, what do you think about this album?

M: 老实说，我真的为葡萄牙“Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia”感到骄傲。这听起来可能有些陈词滥调，但这张专辑对我来说意义非凡，不仅因为它的音乐，还因为它背后的历史。这些歌曲来自我刚刚起步的时候。1995年当Carnificina乐队刚刚诞生时，我才弹了几个月的吉他。它是原始的，是混乱的，但它有一些真实的东西，我永远不想让这些东西被遗忘。从音乐上讲，它是纯粹的Old School Death/Thrash音乐。没有噱头，没有过度制作。只有咬字清晰的旋律、猛烈的节奏，以及对极端金属的真诚态度。有了 2024 版本，我终于能以我一直想象的方式来聆听这些歌曲，节奏紧凑的吉他、强劲有力的鼓点，每个元素都在混音中恰到好处。我不想让声音太现代化，只想打磨已有的东西。这也是对友谊和尊重的赞美。有了Beyonder、Ve-R-ee Ax和D-Void的加入，一切都变得更有意义。每个人都加入了独特的元素，我们一起赋予了这些老歌新的生命。这张专辑可能是在回忆中诞生的，但它作为一种残酷而不妥协的宣言，在今天依然屹立不倒。

Honestly, I'm really proud of Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia. It might sound cliché, but this release means a lot to me, not just because of the music, but because of the history behind it. These songs came from a time when I was just starting out. I had barely been playing guitar for a few months when Carnificina first came to life in 1995. It was raw, it was chaotic, but it had something real, and I never wanted that to be forgotten. Musically, it’s pure old school death/thrash. No gimmicks, no overproduction. Just riffs with bite, violent grooves, and an honest approach to extreme metal. With the 2024 version, I finally got to hear these songs the way I always imagined them, tight rhythm guitars, punchy drums, and each element sitting properly in the mix. I didn’t want to modernize the sound too much, just polish what was already there. It's also a celebration of friendship and respect. Having Beyonder, Ve-R-ee Ax and D-Void on board made everything more meaningful. Each one added something unique, and together we gave these old songs new life. This album might have been born from memories, but it stands strong today as a brutal and uncompromising statement.

V: Carnificina已经很久没有发行新作品了，你有计划在2025年为这支乐队发行新作品吗？

It's been a long time since Carnificina released any new material, do you have any plans to release a new work for this band in 2025?

M: 如果发生了，那就发生了。Carnificina对我来说一直是一个非常私人的项目，我从不勉强，事实上至少有一首老歌没有被收录进这张EP，我还保留着一些当时的乐曲构思......那时候一切都比较简单，设备、录音、生活，都是原始的草图。有一天我想做一些真正纪念那个时代的作品。不是试图完美复制，而是引导同样的精神，不做过多思考，只演奏感觉正确的东西。那时我们不在乎潮流或完美。我们所追求的是激情，是那种想要创造出重磅作品的冲动。老实说如果我能回到那个时代，我一定会义无反顾。是的2025年还没有具体计划，但Carnificina仍在呼吸。如果时机合适，也许会有新的东西从阴影中出现。

If it happens, it happens. Carnificina has always been a very personal project for me, and I’ve never forced anything with it. There’s actually at least one old song that didn’t make it onto the EP, and I still have a few riff ideas from back then… raw sketches from a time when everything was simpler, gear, recording, life. One day, I’d like to do something that truly honours that era. Not by trying to replicate it perfectly, but by channeling that same spirit, no overthinking, just playing what feels right. Back then, we didn’t care about trends or perfection. It was all about passion and that urge to create something heavy. And honestly, if I could go back to that time, I would without thinking twice. So yeah, no concrete plans for 2025, but Carnificina is still breathing. And if the time feels right, something new might emerge from the shadows.

V: Carnificina是一支经典的老牌乐队，我会一直支持和关注你们乐队，也希望能早日听到这支乐队的新作品，也希望通过这次采访让更多的中国乐迷关注、支持你们乐队，最后你有什么话想对中国的乐迷朋友们说吗？

Carnificina is a classic old band, I will always support and follow your band, I also hope to hear the new work of this band soon, I also hope that through this interview to let more Chinese fans to pay attention to, support your band, in the end do you have anything you would like to say to your Chinese fans friends?

M: 非常感谢你们的支持，这对我和参与Carnificina的每一个人都意义重大。这支乐队始于90 年代中期的一个少年梦想，我从未想过几十年后，来自世界各地，尤其是中国这样一个文化丰富的地方的人们会聆听、支持这支音乐，并产生共鸣。致所有中国乐迷：感谢你们的时间、精力和耳朵。尽管Carnificina在浩瀚的极端金属世界中只是一个小名字，但我们的音乐能走得如此之远，能与来自不同文化背景的人们产生共鸣，这确实是一种力量。我希望这次采访能帮助你更多地了解乐队的根源、精神和激情。也许有一天，我们会给你们带来新的东西。在那之前--保持喧闹，保持好奇，永远不要停止对地下音乐的支持。你们太棒了！（You are amazing!）

Thank you so much for your support, it means a lot to me and to everyone involved in Carnificina. This band started as a teenage dream in the mid '90s, and I never imagined that decades later, people from across the world, especially from such a culturally rich place as China, would be listening, supporting, and resonating with this music. To all Chinese fans out there: thank you for your time, your energy, and your ears. Even though Carnificina is a small name in the vast world of extreme metal, the fact that our music can travel so far and connect with people from different cultures is truly powerful. I hope this interview helps you understand more about the band’s roots, spirit, and passion. And maybe, one day, we’ll bring something new your way. Until then - stay loud, stay curious, and never stop supporting underground music. 你们太棒了！(You are amazing!)

Carnificina乐队主要作品：

Carnificina - Portuguese Massmurder Memorabilia（2011）

Carnificina乐队官方Bandcamp网站：https://studios13.bandcamp.com/album/portuguese-massmurder-memorabilia