审判日 - 巴西D-Beat / Punk乐队Detësto专访

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今天采访的是来自巴西的D-Beat / Punk乐队Detësto，成立于2017年的Detësto受到了瑞典的D-Beat/Punk乐队DISCHANGE、DISCARD、DISFEAR、SEITAN、WARCOLLAPSE、SVART PARAD、AVSKUM、MOB47、NO SECURITY、DRILLER KILLER、SKITSYSTEM、BOMBANFALL等乐队的影响，乐队的创始人Wallas2010去了瑞典，在那里我看到了像PUNK ILLEGAL这样的音乐节和其他演出，这对他来说是一个神奇的时刻，能够亲眼看到一些我只通过杂志和书信往来了解到的东西，这样促使Wallas创建Detësto乐队的想法，但是由于工作原因直到2017年才组建了乐队，HÉLIO以吉他手的身份加入乐队，但是不久之后HÉLIO退出乐队由ZIGGY取代他的位置，但是乐队一直没有找到能够胜任贝斯手的人选，直到2021年RATTÖ才以贝斯手的身份加入乐队，2024年第一任鼓手退出乐队取代他的是JAY，同时Wallas还组织了一些小型的演出，邀请了巴西，美国、日本、瑞典、芬兰、秘鲁、斯洛伐克等其他国家的乐队一起演出，在前不久乐队的创始人Wallas与杂志取得联系进行了一次专访！

（V: 代表笔者 W: 代表Wallas）

Today's interview is with Detësto, a D-Beat / Punk band from Brazil, formed in 2017, Detësto was influenced by Swedish D-Beat / Punk bands DISCHANGE, DISCARD, DISFEAR, SEITAN, WARCOLLAPSE, SVART PARAD, AVSKUM, MOB47, NO SECURITY, DRILLER KILLER, SKITSYSTEM, BOMBANFALL, etc. The founder of the band, Wallas, went to Sweden in 2010, where I saw festivals like PUNK ILLEGAL and other gigs, and it was a magical moment for him, to be able to It was a magical moment for him, to be able to see with my own eyes something that I only knew about through magazines and letters, and this prompted Wallas to create the idea of Detësto, but due to work reasons the band wasn't formed until 2017, when HÉLIO joined the band as guitarist, but soon after HÉLIO quit the band to be replaced by ZIGGY, but the band couldn't find someone who could play bass until 2021, when the band was formed. However, the band never found a bassist who could handle it, and it wasn't until 2021 that RATTÖ joined the band as a bassist, and in 2024 the first drummer quit the band and was replaced by Jay, and Wallas also organized some small gigs, inviting bands from Brazil, the USA, Japan, Sweden, Finland, Peru, Slovakia, and other countries to perform with him. Wallas, the founder of the band, contacted the magazine for an interview!

(V: for the author W: for Wallas)

采访对象：Wallas（Detësto乐队歌手）

采访时间：2025.02.04

V: 你好Wallas很高兴见到你，非常感谢你接受我的采访，我想这是你们乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访，首先向所有的中国歌迷问好，Detësto乐队成立于哪一年？你们是如何组建乐队的？

Hello Wallas nice to meet you and thank you very much for participating in my interview, I think this is the first time that your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine, first of all say hello to all the Chinese fans, Detësto was formed in what year? How did you form the band?

W: 你好！我的名字是Wallas，我是乐队Detësto的主唱，非常荣幸能接受中国杂志的采访！嗯，我真的很喜欢瑞典的D-Beat/朋克乐队，比如DISCHANGE、DISCARD、DISFEAR、SEITAN、WARCOLLAPSE、SVART PARAD、AVSKUM、MOB47、NO SECURITY、DRILLER KILLER、SKITSYSTEM、BOMBANFALL等等。2010年我去了瑞典，在那里我看到了像PUNK ILLEGAL这样的音乐节，还有其他演出，那对我来说是一个神奇的时刻，我能够亲眼看到一些我只在杂志和与我通信的人的信件中了解到的东西，这给了我一个“开始”的机会，开始这个项目，虽然没有什么新的东西，但只是那种我非常喜欢的音乐。我花了一段时间才能够组建乐队，由于工作很难找到成员，最后从2016年开始，尽管它们慢慢开始发生，我的一个朋友同意做这个项目。我们认为乐队的开始是2017年，当时HÉLIO（在我所在城市一个重要的Thrash Metal乐队演奏）加入了吉他乐队，待了一段时间，然后被ZIGGY取代——这非常重要，因为他真的给了我们需要的个性——在贝斯方面，我们总是很难找到人，总是有一个朋友临时帮助我们，直到2021年RATTÖ终于加入了乐队，以弥补这个固定贝斯手的缺失。现在在2024年底，帮助我创建乐队的鼓手离开了，JAY接替了他的位置。简而言之我们的风格/影响力我可以说它是90年代的瑞典D-beat/Crust，带有 HELLHAMMER/CELTIC FROST 的“元素”。在DETËSTO，我是唯一一个以前没有加入过乐队的人——我只做过几件事，但都不是很认真——但我总是以某种方式参与其中，通过我的联系人，我尽可能地帮助乐队进行演出和DIY巡演，一段时间后在我的城市里没有任何事情发生，我开始在这里组织演出与来自我国家不同地区的乐队以及来自美国、日本、瑞典、芬兰、秘鲁、斯洛伐克等其他国家的乐队一起演出。

Hello! My name is Wallas and I am the vocalist of the band Detësto and it is a great pleasure to be answering this interview for a Chinese Magazine! Well, I really love the Swedish scene of D-Beat/Punk bands like DISCHANGE, DISCARD, DISFEAR, SEITAN, WARCOLLAPSE, SVART PARAD, AVSKUM, MOB47, NO SECURITY, DRILLER KILLER, SKITSYSTEM, BOMBANFALL, etc. and in 2010 I went to Sweden and there I saw festivals like PUNK ILLEGAL, other gigs and it was a magical moment for me and I was able to see in person a little of what I only knew through zines and letters from people I corresponded with and that gave me a “start” to start, at the beginning, this project, which would have nothing new, but just that kind of sound that I loved so much. It took a while for me to be able to start the band, due to work, difficulty finding members for it and finally from 2016 things, even though they slowly started to happen and a friend of mine agreed to do this project. We consider the beginning of the band to be the year 2017, when HÉLIO (who plays in an important Thrash Metal band in my city) joined the band on guitar, staying for a while and then being replaced by ZIGGY – which was very important because he really gave the personality we needed - and on bass we always had difficulty finding someone and always a friend helped us temporarily, until in 2021, RATTÖ finally joined the band to make up for this lack of a fixed bassist. Now, at the end of 2024, the drummer who helped me create the band left and JAY came in his place. Our style/influence in short I could say it's the Swedish D-beat/Crust of the 90's with a "spice" of HELLHAMMER/CELTIC FROST. In DETËSTO I was the only one who hadn't been in a band before – I've only done a few things, but nothing serious – but I was always involved in some way, through my contacts whenever possible I helped bands on gigs and DIY tours and after some time for nothing happens in my city, I started organizing gigs here, with bands from different parts of my country, as well as bands from other countries like USA, Japan, Sweden, Finland, Peru, Slovakia and others.

V: 你们乐队有多少成员，都是第一代成员吗？你们换过成员吗？新成员是怎么加入乐队的？你们对新成员有什么看法？

How many members do you have and are you all first generation members? Have you ever changed members? How do new members join the band? What do you think of the new members?

W: 如今Detësto有ZIGGY（吉他手）、RATTÖ（贝斯手）、JAY（鼓手）和我（WALLAS）（主唱），随着鼓手的离开--他是乐队的第一代成员--现在只有我是第一代成员了，尽管只是在 2021年，随着 RATTÖ 的到来，我们才有了真正属于乐队的固定贝斯手。尽管乐队来自一个拥有 100 多万居民的城市（名为坎皮纳斯），但要为乐队找到成员却一直非常困难，因为在我所在的城市，D-Beat/Crust的氛围并不浓厚，而且总是有来自其他城市的人的故事要讲，这在一定程度上对我们来说非常困难，因为我们都有自己的经理、家庭和孩子，这有点妨碍我们的生活，所以对我来说，训练中的一些变化是很自然的。我们在个人生活中都有自己的优先事项，但当我们把时间投入到乐队中时，我认为你应该百分之百地参与其中，因为其他人也参与其中，就拿我们乐队来说，他们为了与乐队在一起，牺牲了与家人在一起的时间，也牺牲了做其他事情的时间，这就是为什么我认为当你没有“动力”时，把你的位置让给其他有“动力”的人，不要妨碍其他人，走你自己的路，做任何让你开心的事情，这才是更诚实的做法。

Today Detësto has ZIGGY (guitar), RATTÖ (bass) and JAY (drums) and me (WALLAS) on vocals and with the departure of the drummer – who was an original member – only I am now part of the first formation, although only In 2021, with the arrival of RATTÖ, we had a permanent bassist who really belongs to the band. Even though the band is from a city (called Campinas) with more than 1 million inhabitants, it has always been very difficult to find members for the band, as the d-beat/crust scene is not strong in my city and there have always been stories to tell with people from other cities, which was partly very difficult for us due to the costs and also our lives, as we all have our managers, families, children and this hindered us a little, so some changes in training were natural for me. We have our priorities in our personal lives, but when we dedicate time to the band, I believe that you should be 100% involved with it, because other people are involved and in the case of our band, they sacrifice the time they could spend with their families and do other things for being with the band, that's why I think it's more honest when you're not “motivated”, to give your place to someone else who is and don't get in the way of others and follow your path, in whatever makes you happy.

V: 你们能描述一下你们的创作过程吗？我知道你们刚刚发布了最新的EP，这张专辑的写歌过程如何进行的？

Can you guys describe your creative process? I know you've just released your latest EP, how is the writing process going for this album?

W: 我们的创作过程很简单：在排练中，有人带来一个我们喜欢的Riff，我们在此基础上进行创作，然后我添加歌词，通常是在声音基本准备好的时候。我们唱英文歌，也有一些歌词是瑞典语，在这些歌词中，我们有一位瑞典朋友帮助我们翻译。在我们的上一张EP"HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR"中，制作过程与其他作品类似，有人看到了一段Riff，我们就以此为基础进行创作。从我们的第一张Demo开始，我们制作了2种声音的新版本。由于录制时间非常短，我们只能休息片刻，这就是我们找到的解决方案。

Our creative process is simple: During rehearsals, someone brings a riff that we like and we work on it and then I add lyrics, usually when the sound is practically ready. We sing in English and we also have some lyrics in Swedish, in these lyrics we have a Swedish friend who helps us with the translations. In our last EP “HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR” the process was like the others, someone saw it with a riff and we worked on that, just 2 sounds from our first demo – which came out on a CDR made by us – we made new versions in 2 sounds , as we had a very short time to record, as we would have a break and this was the solution found.

V: 你们的作品在录音效果方面非常出色，请问你们是在哪个录音棚录制的专辑？哪位制作人制作了你们的专辑？新专辑的录制进展如何？

Your work is outstanding in terms of recording results, what studio did you record the album in? Which producer produced your album? How did the recording of the new album progress?

W: 我也非常喜欢最终的结果，因为它其实应该是一张12英寸的LP唱片，但我们遇到了一些挫折，我的第一个孩子也要出生了，这减少了我们排练和录音的时间，所以我们决定只录6个音色。在这张EP中我们使用了不同的调音和低音失真，我们的音乐比D-beat更Crust，也就是说，比D-beat的节奏更快，但这是自然而然的。我们在坎皮纳斯市的CASA 39 ESTUDIO进行了录音，录音和混音由RODRIGO负责，他已经习惯了我们的声音，知道我们想要什么，录音非常容易，虽然是老生常谈，但这张 EP“HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR"是我们迄今为止最好的录音.

Thanks! I also really liked the final result, as it was actually supposed to be a 12” LP, but we had some setbacks and my first child was going to be born, which reduced our rehearsal and recording time, so we decided to record just 6 sounds. In this EP we use a different tuning and distortion of the bass, and we are more crust than d-beat, that is, a faster sound than that d-beat cadence, but this came naturally. We recorded in our city CAMPINAS at CASA 39 ESTUDIO and the recording and mixing was in charge of RODRIGO, who is already used to our sound and knows what we want and the recording was very easy, and even though it is a cliche, this EP “HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR” was our best recording to date and we were very pleased with the final result.

V: 你们乐队的Logo很特别是一只鹰，这让我想起了Slayer乐队，是谁为你们设计了这个Logo？你们专辑中的大部分插图都是真实的照片，很多是战争时期的照片，是谁为你们设计的插图？

Your band's logo is unique in that it's an eagle, it reminds me of Slayer's, who designed this logo for you? Most of the artwork on your albums are real photographs, many from the war, who designed the artwork for you?

W: 事实上这不是向我们也喜欢的Slayer乐队致敬，而是向一个叫Wolfpack的瑞典乐队致敬！- 因为我们是一个所谓的 “第三世界”国家，而且我们受到瑞典场景的影响，所以我们做了一只破烂的秃鹫哈哈，而不是狼群威风凛凛的老鹰。这幅画由Jef制作。最后这张EP“HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR”的封面是由我们的朋友ALDO COSTAS SKETCH创作的，他一直在帮助我们制作DETËSTO乐队的封面，我们非常感谢他！他的作品非常棒，他的书和杂志也非常酷。

In fact, it's like a “tribute” not to Slayer – which we also like! - but for a Swedish band called Wolfpack (currently Wolfbrigade) and as we are a so-called "third world" country and because we are influenced by the Swedish scene, we made a ragged vulture haha instead of wolfpack's imposing eagle. This art was made by Jef. This last art for the EP "HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR" was created by our friend ALDO COSTAS SKETCH, who always helped us with the graphics/art of the band DETËSTO and to whom we are very grateful! He does great work and has really cool books and zines.

V: 你的最新EP在意大利的Future Gloom Records和美国SPHC Records以磁带和黑胶唱片的形式发行。你是如何与这两个厂牌联系进行合作的？你之前有没有发行过实体专辑？

Your latest EP was released on tape and vinyl on Future Gloom Records in Italy and SPHC Records in the U.S. How did you get in touch with these two labels to collaborate? Have you released any of your previous work on physical albums?

W: EP“HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR”于12月在意大利由FUTURE GLOOM RECORDS发行了磁带版，我对最终的效果非常满意，因为它是经过精心制作的，还附赠了2个彩排录音。黑胶唱片稍有延迟，目前正在制作中，将于2025年第一季度由SPHC RECORDS发行。关于这盘磁带我与FUTURE GLOOM RECORDS的SIMONE谈了一段时间，他说他很想有一天能发行乐队的一些作品，现在终于有可能了。我认识SPHC RECORDS的DAN有好几年了，因为他的老乐队曾与日本乐队SETE STAR SEPT一起在巴西进行过巡演，我在巡演中帮过忙，也见过他本人，当我把我乐队的声音发给他时，他对发行我们的第一张EP和现在这张黑胶唱片很感兴趣。DETËSTO乐队主要是因为“新冠肺炎”大流行，为了让乐队在无事可做的时期保持活力，他们发行了几个版本的唱片，除了黑胶形式，还有磁带和CD，在其他国家也有版本，如俄罗斯、印度、哥伦比亚、瑞典，我们还参加了一些合辑，这对推广乐队很重要，也让乐队在无事可做的时期保持活力。我认为音乐的数字传播非常重要，这种方式可以让更多人接触到音乐，而且成本更低，方式也更民主，比如YOUTUBE，但我永远喜欢实体形式，没有什么比手头的材料、小册子、封面制作以及所有这些能进一步丰富声音本身的细节更令人兴奋了。

The release of the EP “HORRENDOUS REALITY OF WAR” was released in December on TAPE in Italy by FUTURE GLOOM RECORDS and I was very happy with the final result, as it was done with great care and has 2 recorded rehearsal sounds as a bonus. The Vinyl is a little delayed and is currently in production and will now be released in the first quarter of 2025 by SPHC RECORDS. In the case of the tape, I was talking to SIMONE from FUTURE GLOOM RECORDS for some time and he talked about his interest in releasing something from the band one day and it was finally possible. DAN from SPHC RECORDS I've known him for a few years, because his old band did a tour together with the Japanese band SETE STAR SEPT in BRAZIL and I helped on the tour and met him personally and when I sent him the sounds of my band, He was interested in releasing our first EP and now this one on vinyl. DETËSTO, mainly because of the Corona Virus Pandemic, to keep the band active in a period when nothing happened, had several versions of their recordings released, in addition to the VINYL format, also on TAPE AND CD, with versions in other countries such as RUSSIA, INDONESIA, COLOMBIA, SWEDEN and we also participated in some compilations, which was important to promote the band and also keep it alive in a period where nothing was happening. I think it's very important for music to be disseminated digitally, it's a way that can reach more people and in a cheaper and more democratic way, like for example YOUTUBE, but I will always love the physical format, nothing is more exciting than you having the material on hand, the booklet, the work with the cover and all these details that further enriches the sound itself.

V: 首先祝贺你们今年刚刚发行的最新EP专辑，你们是一支很棒的Punk乐队，演奏Old School Punk风格，快速、连续的旋律，疯狂的鼓点甚至还有一些Grindcore元素，主唱的嗓音低沉有力，你觉得你们的新作品如何？新专辑与旧专辑相比如何？

Firstly congratulations on your latest EP album which has just been released this year, you guys are a great punk band, you play old school punk style, fast, continuous riffs, crazy drums and you even have some grindcore elements, the singer's vocals are low and powerful, what do you think of your new work? How does the new album compare to the old one?

W: 谢谢！新专辑于2023年9月在ESTUDIO CASA 39录制完成，我们在乐队的Bandcamp上发布了新专辑，你也可以在YouTube上找到它。它将有实体版本，磁带版将于2024年12月在意大利由FUTURE GLOOM RECORDS发行，7英寸黑胶版将于2025年3月在美国发行。最初的想法是发行一张12英寸LP唱片，但我们遇到了（许多）挫折，当时我的第一个孩子出生了，这减少了我们的排练时间，因此我们无法创作歌曲，也无法进入录音室制作这张专辑，所以我们选择只录制 6 种声音。可能有点老生常谈，但这是我最喜欢的录音，因为我们对吉他和贝斯踏板的调音做了一些改动，而 ESTUDIO CASA 39 的 RODRIGO 知道什么最适合我们，这让我们在短时间内也能安心录音。我认为这张 EP 与之前录音的不同之处在于，这次录音的声音节奏稍快，不像之前那么有节奏感，这让我们这次的“DISRUPT”风格稍显突出，比传统的D- beat更有Crust风格，我们非常喜欢这样的效果，以后可能会沿着这条路走下去。

Thanks! It was recorded in September 2023 at ESTUDIO CASA 39 and we made it available on the band's Bandcamp, but you can also find it on YouTube. It will have physical versions, it will be released on tape in December 2024 in Italy by FUTURE GLOOM RECORDS and the 7” vinyl version will be released in the United States by March 2025. The initial idea was to be a 12” LP, but we had (many) setbacks and at the time my first child was born, which reduced our rehearsal time so we could create the songs and go into the studio for this release, so we opted to just record 6 sounds. It may be a bit cliché, but it's the recording that I liked the most, as we made some changes to the tuning of the guitar and bass pedals and RODRIGO from ESTUDIO CASA 39 knows what works best for us, this gave us the peace of mind we needed to make the recording, even in a short space of time. The difference I see in this EP compared to previous recordings is that in this recording the sounds are a little faster, not as rhythmic as before, which gave us a slightly more DISRUPT “style” this time, more crust than the traditional d- beat, and we really liked the result and will probably follow this path in the future.

V: 你们参加过哪些音乐节？哪些音乐节给你们留下了深刻印象？能描述一下气氛吗？2025年你们还计划参加哪些音乐节？

What festivals have you guys been to? What festivals have impressed you? Can you describe the atmosphere, and what other festivals are you planning to attend in 2025?

W: 我们的演出并不多，因为除了我们的工作（吉他手在卫生部门工作，这意味着他的工作时间很疯狂），乐队所有成员都有其他音乐项目（除了我），这意味着我们必须很好地管理我们的演出承诺，但我们已经与来自巴西其他州的几支乐队合作过，还与来自瑞典（Contorture 和 Vicious Irene）、芬兰（Rattus 和 Terveet Kädet）、比利时（Hiatus）等其他国家的乐队合作过。去年年底，我们参加了一个名为“HARDCORE BEER FEST”的音乐节，那里有不同音乐风格的乐队，这很有挑战性，同时也很酷，因为那些很难接触到我们音乐风格的人能够认识我们，我相信这对我们来说非常好，这是一个非常酷的音乐节，如果我们的思想更加“封闭”，我们就会错过让其他人认识我们的机会，也会错过在一个气氛如此酷的音乐节上演出的机会！2025年我们的演出安排仍然不多，因为我们更换了鼓手，他只排练了3次就与两支正在巴西巡演的瑞典乐队合作了。

We don't play many gigs, because in addition to our jobs (the guitarist works in the health sector, which means he has some crazy hours), all the band members have other musical projects (except me!), which means that We have to manage our gig commitments well, but we have already played with several bands from other states in Brazil, as well as playing with bands from other countries such as Sweden (Contorture and Vicious Irene), Finland (Rattus and Terveet Kädet), Belgium (Hiatus), etc. At the end of last year we played at a Festival called HARDCORE BEER FEST where there were bands with different musical styles and it was challenging and at the same time it was really cool, because people who would hardly have had contact with our musical style were able to meet us and I believe that was very good for us, it was a really cool festival and if we had been more “closed” minded we would have missed the opportunity for other people to get to know us, as well as playing at a Festival with such a cool atmosphere! For 2025 we still have few gigs scheduled, as we had a change of drummer and he only had 3 rehearsals to be able to play with two Swedish bands that are on tour in Brazil and we will give priority first for him to rehearse our set and also help us with new compositions , so our priority is to have a better rapport before booking more gigs

V: 你计划在2025年有什么新作品？比如继续写和录制一些新歌，你能透露一些给乐队的信息吗？

What new work do you have coming up in 2025? Like continuing to write and record some new songs, can you reveal some information to the group?

W: 我们最近更换了鼓手，现在我们正集中精力为未来的演出排练，同时也在利用新成员带来的兴奋点创作新的声音。今年我们计划与巴西D-beat Punk乐队ODIÄR合作，还可能与另一支即将确定的瑞典乐队合作。今年我们还计划创作和录制唱片，争取在2026年发行第一张专辑。

We recently had a change of drummer and we are now focusing on rehearsing for gigs that we will have in the future and also taking advantage of all the excitement that this new member has to compose new sounds. We have planned for this year a split with the Brazilian d-beat punk band ODIÄR and probably a split with another band from Sweden that is about to be confirmed. This year we also aim to compose and record to release our first LP in 2026.

V: Detësto是一支非常经典的Punk乐队，我会一直支持和关注你们的乐队，也希望通过这次采访能有更多的中国乐迷关注和支持你们的乐队，最后有什么想对中国乐迷说的吗？

Detësto is a very classic punk band, I will always support and follow your band, I also hope that through this interview more Chinese fans will pay attention to and support your band, what would you like to say to your Chinese fans in the end?

W: 首先，我要感谢VOLCANO MAGAZINE给了我们这样一个机会，在中国推广我们，支持 DETËSTO乐队！我们非常感谢您对我们的关注，如果NIIT想与我们联系，请在我们Instagram 上留言，我们是真实的人，我们喜欢与其他文化进行交流！再次表示感谢！

Firstly, I would like to thank you for the opportunity given to us by VOLCANO MAGAZINE to support the band DETËSTO by promoting us in CHINA, which for us is something very exciting and we love it when our music is known in other parts of the world! We are grateful for your attention and if you want to get in touch, do so on our Instagram, we are real people and we love talking and exchanging experiences with other cultures! Once again, thank you very much!