牢笼中的流浪汉 - 意大利Punk / Metalcore乐队Chain专访

Volcano Magazine
Jun 9
9 min read

Lorenzo Schiavo的Chain项目诞生于2022年年底，其初衷是改变所有的模式，摧毁这个世界的虚假，如今已变得疲惫不堪。他出生于的里雅斯特，父母是意大利人，父亲是埃塞俄比亚人。他与音乐的邂逅始于Bob Marley和雷鬼/斯卡音乐，这是他家庭文化不可分割的一部分。但直到十岁时，他发现了朋克音乐，才明白音乐是改变现状的一种手段。因此，他开始演奏各种乐器，但鼓是他在更成熟的年龄开始音乐会的起点。后来，他在多个项目（Rotten Apples、Toxic Dogs、No Smoking、Manicomio Zero......）中担任器乐演奏员，然后搬到了巴伦西亚，渴望新的音乐能够教给他新的东西。大约一年半之后，他回到意大利，开始创作一个能引领他个人成长，但最重要的是能接近他的目标的项目。

（V: 代表笔者 L: 代表Lorenzo Schiavo）

Lorenzo Schiavo's Chain project was launched at the end of 2022 with the aim of disrupting established norms and dismantling the falsehoods that have become exhausting in today's world. He was born in Trieste, with Italian parents and an Ethiopian father. His introduction to music began with Bob Marley and reggae/ska music, which were an integral part of his family's cultural heritage. However, it wasn't until he was ten years old that he discovered punk music and realized that music could be a tool for change. From there, he began playing various instruments, but the drums became the starting point for his musical career as he matured. Later, he served as an instrumentalist in multiple projects (Rotten Apples, Toxic Dogs, No Smoking, Manicomio Zero...), then moved to Valencia, eager for new music to teach him new things. About a year and a half later, he returned to Italy and began creating a project that could guide his personal growth, but most importantly, bring him closer to his goals.

(V: represents the author; L: represents Lorenzo Schiavo)

采访对象：Lorenzo Schiavo（Chain乐队创始人）

采访时间：2025.06.09

V: 你好Lorenzo Schiavo先生，很高兴见到你，非常感谢你参与这次采访。我认为这是你们乐队首次接受中国杂志的采访。首先向所有中国粉丝和朋友问好。Chain乐队是什么时候成立的？你们是如何组建这支乐队的？

Hello Mr. Lorenzo Schiavo, it's a pleasure to meet you and thank you very much for participating in this interview. I think this is the first time your band has been interviewed by a Chinese magazine. First of all, let's say hello to all Chinese fans and friends. When was Chain band founded? How did you form this band?

L: 大家好，我是Lorenzo，也就是Chain。这个项目诞生于2020年疫情封锁结束之际。最初，它被命名为*Strays in Cage*，但由于乐队相关问题，我们不得不搁置这个想法并稍后重新审视它。在这段空窗期，我继续发展一些概念，将*Strays*的部分精髓融入到现在的个人项目中。

Hi everyone, I'm Lorenzo, aka Chain. This project was born at the end of quarantine in 2020. Initially, it was called *Strays in Cage*, but due to band-related issues, we had to set the idea aside and revisit it later. During this hiatus, I kept developing some concepts, incorporating part of the *Strays* essence into what is now a solo project.

V: 你们乐队现在有多少名成员？他们都是第一代成员吗？他们是如何加入乐队的？

How many members do your band have now? Are they all members of the first generation? How did they all join the band?

L: 尽管我是一名独唱艺术家，但我会与原项目中的两位乐手一起进行现场表演：吉他手Massimo Lombardo（艺名“Mad Faxe”）和DJ Giuseppe Caccetta（艺名“Unligal B”）。我14岁时认识了Massimo——他当时只学吉他几个月，但already展现出天才般的天赋。Giuseppe和我是在一个艺术家公社相遇的；他在晚餐时邀请我参加一个活动，从那天起，我们便开始合作多个音乐项目。

Though I’m a solo artist, I perform live with two other instrumentalists from the original project: guitarist Massimo Lombardo (aka "Mad Faxe") and DJ Giuseppe Caccetta (aka "Unligal B"). I met Massimo when we were 14—he’d only been playing for a few months but was already a prodigy. Giuseppe and I crossed paths in an artists’ commune; he invited me to an event during dinner, and from that day on, we collaborated on multiple musical ventures.

V: 你能介绍一下你的创作过程吗？

Can you introduce your creative process?

L: 从一开始，我们就致力于将metalcore与hardcore punk的激进风格与工industrial metal的标志性音色相融合。但仅此还不足以满足我的创作愿景，因此我们融入了更具都市风格的元素。随着项目的发展，更多影响逐渐渗透进来，最终塑造了一个全新的赛博朋克原型。歌词描绘了一个未来，其中cyberization正将生活与思想双双工业化——这是一场对同质化的反抗。

From the start, we aimed to fuse the aggression of metalcore and hardcore punk with industrial metal’s signature sound. But that alone didn’t satisfy my creative vision, so we infused it with a more urban style. As the project evolved, more influences seeped in, ultimately shaping a new cyberpunk prototype. The lyrics envision a future where cyberization industrializes both lives and minds—a rebellion against homogenization.

V: 你们乐队的Logo设计非常简洁，但这种设计风格是我个人最喜欢的，因为我能很容易地记住你们的名字。是谁为你们设计了这个Logo？你们的专辑封面设计也非常精美。是谁为你们设计了这张封面？

The logo design of your band is very simple, but this design form is my personal favorite because I can easily remember your names. Who designed this logo for you? Your album artwork is also very beautifully designed. Who designed this artwork for you?

L: 我最大的挑战是找到一位能理解我需求的平面设计师。我想要一个简单却引人注目的Logo，能够传达我的根源和信息。经过数月的寻找，我的童年好友Simone Trausi提到了他用设计软件进行"龙与地下城'游戏的爱好。当我看到他的作品时，我就知道他就是我要找的人。Simone擅长将文字及其含义转化为视觉元素并将这一理念应用到书中的每一页。

My biggest challenge was finding a graphic designer who understood my needs. I wanted a simple yet striking logo that conveyed my roots and message. After months of searching, my childhood friend Simone Trausi mentioned his hobby of using design software for D&D sessions. When I saw his casual work, I knew he was the one. Simone has a gift for translating words and their meanings into visuals, and he applied that philosophy to every page of the book.

V: 你的音乐主题是什么，为什么选择这个音乐主题，你希望这个音乐主题表达什么？歌词是谁创作的，他们创作的灵感来自哪里？

What is the theme of your music about, why did you choose this music theme, and what do you want to hear this music theme express? Who created the lyrics and what inspired them?

L: New Alcatraz，正如我之前提到的，是一个高度实验性的项目。其反乌托邦愿景——一个机器与科技支配人类而非相反的世界——与现实并不遥远。这一概念使摇滚与金属音乐与电子音乐的融合成为一种有效的表达工具。在为阻止一个比过去更糟糕的未来而斗争时，表达愤怒成为一种必要。我的歌词传达了这种愤怒，但以一种建设性和保护性的方式。目睹世界崩塌，更激發了我創作與吶喊的渴望。

New Alcatraz is, as I mentioned, a highly experimental project. Its dystopian vision—a world where machines and technology dominate humanity rather than the opposite—is not so distant from reality. This concept makes the fusion of rock and metal with electronic genres an effective tool. Expressing anger becomes a necessity when fighting to prevent a future worse than the past. My lyrics channel this anger, but in a constructive and preservative way. Watching the world crumble fuels my desire to write and scream.

V: 你们乐队的专辑录音效果非常出色。你们是在哪家录音室录制这张专辑的？是哪位制作人为你制作了这张专辑？专辑的录音过程进展顺利吗？

Your band's album recording effect is excellent. Which studio did you record the album in? Which producer made the album for you? Is the recording process of the album going smoothly?

L: 在制作首张专辑时，我特别与两家录音室合作：位于萨沃纳的**BxF Moving Sound**和位于罗马波梅齐亚的**Raw Rats Records**。最终的合作对象是后者——Raw Rats的Cristiano Iovino负责了所有节奏的创作以及混音和母带处理，除了"Dark & Bass"这首歌，它是由BxF制作的。

For the creation of the first album, I collaborated with two studios in particular: **BxF Moving Sound** in Savona and **Raw Rats Records** in Pomezia (Rome). The definitive partnership was with the latter—Cristiano Iovino of Raw Rats composed all the beats and handled mixing and mastering, except for *Dark & Bass*, which was produced by BxF.

V: 你是如何与Triad Rec联系并合作制作你的下一张专辑的？你对这个品牌的工作满意吗？

How did you get in touch with The Triad Rec to collaborate on your upcoming album? Are you satisfied with the job at this brand?

L: 我与**Triad Rec**的结缘，要归功于我的声乐教练Simone Luise，她此前已作为**Straight to Pain**的主唱与该公司合作过。在寻求专辑反馈时，他建议我将作品提交给他们。他们对作品印象深刻，最终决定签约该项目。我们已合作一年，他们的支持让"New Alcatraz"有机会在全世界范围内崭露头角——这对像我这样来自高度工业化背景的人来说，是一个梦想成真的机会。

My connection with **Triad Rec** came through my vocal coach, Simone Luise, who already worked with them as the singer of **Straight to Pain**. Seeking feedback on my album, he suggested I present it to them. They were impressed enough to sign the project. We’ve been collaborating for a year now, and their support has given *New Alcatraz* the chance to roar across the world—a dream for someone like me, coming from a heavily industrialized reality.

V: 首先恭喜你们的乐队即将发行新专辑。你们的音乐融合了Punk, Metalcore等多种风格，既保留了Punk的放荡不羁，又融入了Metalcore的稳固感。你们对自己作品的看法是怎样的？

First of all, congratulations to your band for the upcoming release of a new album. Your work combines Punk, Metalcore and other styles, with both Punk's debauchery and Metalcore's insured feeling. What is your opinion on your own work?

L: 我为与团队共同完成的作品感到自豪，但我不禁展望未来——这张专辑只是冰山一角。凭借我所学到的知识，我将继续探索世界强加给我们的无数枷锁，寻找打破它们的方法。

I’m proud of the work done with the team, but I can’t help looking ahead—this album is just the tip of the iceberg. Thanks to what I’ve learned, I can keep exploring the countless cages the world has imposed on us, finding ways to break them all open.

V: 你主要受到哪些乐队的影響？你能列出一些你最喜欢的乐队吗？

What bands have you mainly been influenced by? Can you list some of your favorite bands?

L: 我最大的音乐影响包括**Slipknot、Bloody Beetroots、The Prodigy**和**The Casualties**等乐队，而在歌词方面，我从**Ska-P、The Clash**和**Bob Marley**等艺术家那里汲取灵感。然而，融入日本动漫主题曲才是最后的关键——它们的节奏变化和层次丰富的编曲对歌曲结构产生了深远影响。

My biggest musical influences include bands like **Slipknot, Bloody Beetroots, The Prodigy**, and **The Casualties**, while lyrically, I draw inspiration from **Ska-P, The Clash**, and **Bob Marley**. However, incorporating Japanese anime theme songs was the final key—their tempo shifts and layered compositions heavily inspired the song structures.

V: 尽管Chain是一支非常年轻的乐队，我将始终支持并关注你们的乐队。我也希望通过这次采访，能有更多人关注并支持你们的乐队。最后，你们有什么想对中国的粉丝和朋友们说的吗？

Although Chain is a very young band, I will always support and follow your band. I also hope that through this interview, more people will pay attention to and support your band. Do you have anything to say to your Chinese fans and friends in the end?

L: 发自内心地感谢这次机会。通过音乐与你们相连是如此神奇——梦想成真。我希望有一天能访问你们这个令人着迷的国家，沉浸在你们的文化中，甚至为你们演出。继续关注并支持这个项目，因为接下来会更加精彩。来自**Chain**的问候，正如我一直所说：

**“保持独立！”**

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for this opportunity. Reaching you through music is incredible—a dream come true. I hope to visit your fascinating country one day, immerse myself in your culture, and maybe even perform for you. Keep following and supporting the project because things are about to get even more interesting. Greetings from **Chain**, and as I always say:

**"Stay Strays!"**